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    Posted: 17 June 2014 at 1:23pm

•Many people say that Abraham was not Arab :

And I say Neither Abraham was Jew .

Arab did not Excite in Abraham time.

language change from Hebrew. To Arabic

Hebrew :Abram turn to Arabic :Abraham

Genesis 17

Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.


1- prophet will be descended from ishmael

Genesis 17
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

2- abraham lived in paran desert /maca / saudi arabia
Where well water found as miracle by ishmael

Then God opened her [Hagar's] eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt. (Genesis 21:19-22)

Islamic Story behind Zamzam
Islamic history states that the Zamzam Well was revealed to Hagar (Hājar), the second wife of Abraham[2] and mother of Ishmael.[3] By the instruction of God, Abraham left his wife and son at spot in the desert and walked away. She was desperately seeking water for her infant son, but she could not find any, as Mecca is located in a hot dry valley with few sources of water. Hagar ran seven times back and forth in the scorching heat between the two hills of Safa and Marwah, looking for water. Getting thirstier by the second, the infant Ishmael scraped the land with his feet, where suddenly water sprang out. There are other versions of the story involving God sending his angel, Gabriel (Jibra'il), who kicked the ground with his heel and the water rose.[4]

The name of the well comes from the phrase Zomë Zomë, meaning 'stop', which, according to legend, was a command repeated by Hagar during her attempt to contain the spring water.[1
Islamic Story behind Zamzam
Islamic history states that the Zamzam Well was revealed to Hagar (Hājar), the second wife of Abraham[2] and mother of Ishmael.[3] By the instruction of God, Abraham left his wife and son at spot in the desert and walked away. She was desperately seeking water for her infant son, but she could not find any, as Mecca is located in a hot dry valley with few sources of water. Hagar ran seven times back and forth in the scorching heat between the two hills of Safa and Marwah, looking for water. Getting thirstier by the second, the infant Ishmael scraped the land with his feet, where suddenly water sprang out. There are other versions of the story involving God sending his angel, Gabriel (Jibra'il), who kicked the ground with his heel and the water rose.[4]

The name of the well comes from the phrase Zomë Zomë, meaning 'stop', which, according to legend, was a command repeated by Hagar during her attempt to contain the spring water.[1



• Zamzam well is not normal water :•

Dr say zamzam is cure

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5PW8zPSc-hU

• zamzam water is not like any water in earth
It is thick water but currently they mix it with normal
Water and still not lost it is properties

Masaru emoto said zamzam is unique water •
Japanese scientist
Zamzam well is not normal water :•

Dr say zamzam is cure

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5PW8zPSc-hU

• zamzam water is not like any water in earth
It is thick water but currently they mix it with normal
Water and still not lost it is properties

Masaru emoto said zamzam is unique water •
Japanese scientist
Zamzam well is not normal water :•

Dr say zamzam is cure

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5PW8zPSc-hU

• zamzam water is not like any water in earth
It is thick water but currently they mix it with normal
Water and still not lost it is properties

Masaru emoto said zamzam is unique water •
Japanese scientist


• previously mentioned prophet will be
Descended from ishmael who lived in paran desert
In genesis 17


Repeating same thing :

•prophet will come from paran /maca / saudi arabia
With holy book /quran

He said: "The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones, from his right hand went a fiery law for them." (Deuteronomy 33:2


• Allah/ creator will talk to you with tongue of other nation through holy book /quran

Isaiah 28:11 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues God will speak to this people,



• old map prove paran is located in saudi arabia / maca

Sea between paranatte /paran and eygpt

http://www6.0zz0.com/2013/01/30/08/583604079.jpg

Here saudi arabi map

Notice sea between saudi arabia and eygpt

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Saudi_Arabia_map.png


• name prophet in bible ve torah

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g



• burden will be on arab

The burden upon Arabia " isaiah 21:13


•Allah will change nation to new nation
Not understanding called on Arab pre-islam

Deuteronomy 32:21 ►
Parallel Verses
New International Version
They made me jealous by what is no god and angered me with their worthless idols. I will make them envious by those who are not a people; I will make them angry by a nation that has no understanding



• kedar /ishmael also lived in holy place/ Kaaaba
Located in saudi Arabia.


•Ishmael son of Abraham /kedar will glorify house/sacred place and they glorify house.

Isaiah 60:7 ►
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All Kedar's flocks will be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth will serve you; they will be accepted as offerings on my altar, and I will adorn my glorious temple.


• Bible :

Kedar descended from ishmael son Abraham

Genesis 25:13 ►
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New International Version
These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam,


•holy place/ sacred place/ temple located in dry
Valley and called baca where spring occur/well water
And muslim do pilgrimage

Psalm 84

1 How I love your Temple,.... 5 How happy are those whose strength comes from you, who are eager to make the pilgrimage ..............
. 6 As they pass through the dry valley of Baca, it becomes a place of springs;


•Quran also mention it called baca

Quran

Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Baca /Bakkah- blessed and a guidance for the worlds.

• old name of maca is baca

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakkah


• quran also say Abraham set on dry valley/uncaltivated
Where holy house located.


Quran :
Our Lord, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your sacred House, our Lord, that they may establish prayer. So make hearts among the people incline toward them and provide for them from the fruits that they might be grateful.


So we conclude, ishmael lived in paran desert where
Well water, holy house, pilgrim, and these things
Not located any where in earth except saudi Arabia


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Quote truthfull Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2014 at 1:43pm
Disbelievers used to take earth from Abraham feet print
In maca next to holy house which Abraham built,

They took earth because they Abraham was prophet and they thought it is sacred :

Then it was preserved in cement to protect it :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Mqam_a1918.jpg/250px-Mqam_a1918.jpg


• Abraham was known as sacrifier

Grand father of prophet didn't haave
Children so, he promise if he had ten
Kids (boy) he will sacrify one just like abraham did
His grand grand.... parents.

Then he got ten children (boy)


When time come to sacrify

He gathered his all sons to chose one
Of them to sacrify, and he throw pen
And it come turn on prophet father

He did it several time.

Every time it come on prophet father
Then people suggest to sacrify ten camel

He did





Abraham sacrify for his sson isshmael
Mentioned in bible :


Genesis 22 - Abraham Tested - Some time later God - Bible Gateway
www​.biblegateway.com/passage/?search...‏
He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place ...



• prophet was not able to lie about his
Family because people in maca was all his
Relative,

Prophet was known of his honesty

They even put there money with prophet as banker

But when prophet asked them to worship creator
Instead of idols, they start to hate him


Even when they fight prophet, they didn't say he
Is lying because they know he is honest person


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