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Fatah-Momin
 
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bullet Posted: 21 January 2006 at 10:43am

I went to the front page of that site http://www.balagh.net/english/ and there is a section specificly for the Qur'an with the heading Qur'an - I click that. And there is an article with the name:

You must have went to the site ans read what is written under taqeeyah,[lies] if you had continue to read further you would have found what I have posted from the same site, that Quran is not the last revelation, but it continued after the Nabi Allah[saw] passed away, and that book which is known as "MUSHAF FATIMA" is actually the last book of revelations from Allah.

When a faith which is based 9/10 on lies can you take their word on face value? when in majority of their books it is contrary to what you have read.

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bullet Posted: 21 January 2006 at 10:44am

Here are the images from the same site


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bullet Posted: 21 January 2006 at 11:40am
One should ask these question from scholar instead of discussing on the forum, just to remind you there are many hate site that spread false information.



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bullet Posted: 21 January 2006 at 1:05pm

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the site I quoted from above is the most authentic shia site for your benifit here is further proof

 

AL-ALAAMA Nuri Al-Tabrassi [shia scholar], author of one of the most important Shiite references MUSTADRAK AL-WASAEL, mocks Allah's Book and writes that there are verses whose style reaches silliness!


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As a reward for his open Kuffr, the Shia buried him in holy Najaf.

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bullet Posted: 21 January 2006 at 3:19pm
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"Quran was changed by Alcholic khalifs [ Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman(ra)] [naouzobillah]
Translation Maulivi Maqbool Hussain Dehlvi Para 12 #384



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bullet Posted: 27 January 2006 at 7:39pm
Let see how "infalible" imam speak about verse of Quran. The verse is this one
كنتم خير أمة أخرجت للناس تأمرون بالمعروف وتنهون عن المنكر وتؤمنون بالله

When imam Abu Abdullah was asked, how this verse was revealed, he said: "كنتم خير أئمة أخرجت للناس .This is Quran----3/110. "You are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah".
And this is the version of imam---You are the best of the imams raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah.
(Tafsir Kashani, vol 1 p370)

http://www.rafed.net/books/olom-quran/al-safi-01/23.html
(«Tafsir Qummi» том 1, стр 36)
http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qome15gb.jpg
http://www.ahl-ul-bait.org/newlib/Quran/Al_Qomi1/index1.htm

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bullet Posted: 27 January 2006 at 7:41pm

Shia respected scholar Husain al-Nuri al-Tabarsi says: "It has been narrated from many of the Rawafid of times gone by that the present Qur'an is not the one which was revealed upon Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.). it has been altered, and many words added on and omitted." (Faslul Khitab fi Tahrif Kitab Rabb al-Arbab pge 32).

 

 

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Al-Jazaeri, in his book Al-Anwar Al-Numania p.360-362 said that after Ali collected Quran, he brought it to Caliphs and said to them:"This is the book of Allah as revealed. So Umar Ibn Al-Khattab said to him: We have no need of you nor your Quran. We have a Quran writted by Usman. So Ali said to them: "You will not see it after this day , and none will see until my son the Mehdi emerges." In that Quran are many additions and it is free from alteration......"
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