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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 25 November 2005 at 11:18pm

Since the sword is the ultimum weapon of fairness, respect and honor in battle.

Great! I am going to go and just find a sword to become fair, respectful and honourable!

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Quote b95000 Replybullet Posted: 29 November 2005 at 1:54pm
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In this world, peace without securing the peace is impossible...it is a huge pipe dream...
people like me are more tempted to follow Jesus' recipe of peace than anyother. Justice is the only guarantor of Peace.

Folks around the world would have had nothing for sloganeering had the US once, just once, not torpedoed just one resolution against Israel. This sets a blatant example for people across the world, not just in the Muslim world, but also in Europe, to guage the moonstruck state of the US.



" the moonstruck state of the US."

What about the fact that many Muslim dominated states, or leaders therein, have called for Israel to be 'wiped' off the map...hmmm, Sasha, what do you suppose the middle ground is?  You call for moderation and reason on the US side...but what about moderation and reason on the Muslim predominated side (visa vi Israel?)


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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 29 November 2005 at 2:14pm

but what about moderation and reason on the Muslim predominated side (visa vi Israel?)
Just think for a minute. If Israel was not manufactured out of sheer imperial arrogance and thrust upon the people of that area - what would have happened?

If the powers in White Hall and the White House had taken "people" into confidence and said that the Jews are your brothers in dire straits, they need a home - how many would have said bugger off?

With Christ's recipe no one would have wanted Israel to be wiped off the map of the earth - just ONLY if they were taken in as partners in the creation of Israel.

When we kick people in their butts and expect them to do as they are told - thats exactly what happens.

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Quote b95000 Replybullet Posted: 29 November 2005 at 3:15pm
"If Israel was not manufactured out of sheer imperial arrogance and thrust upon the people of that area - what would have happened?"

Sorry Sasha, this is arrogant in itself.  How can you claim that Jews do not have claims to historical Holy Sites in and around the Jerusalem countryside (and Christians for that matter) any more than Muslims can claim such in Medina and Mecca?  How on God's green earth is that 'manufactured?'  That's ludicrous..

Are you saying Jews are not part of 'the people' of that area?  Wow...


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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 30 November 2005 at 12:18am

Sorry Sasha, this is arrogant in itself. 

One day, I will have to borrow that technoloy from you, of not reading the post but something else from somewhere else out of the sudden blue!

I am for the rights of all people in the world, anywhere. BUT what good is "rights" if offered to anyone in a cursed cup?

Our good old Brits are known for sowing discontent, dividing and ruling and all those sorts of things. They way Israel was created + the way Israel behaved with the people of the area was almost like a hood being forced onto a neighbourhood.

The Anglo-Americans created it for fear and strife in the area. What do you expect? Peace and harmony?

The results of following the ways of some Machiavellis or Leo Strauss s are before us. We can rid of this hell only by finding the divine string!

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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 30 November 2005 at 6:50am

Bismillah,

Yeah, Thomas Jefferson was also an adulterer.  What a guy.  In spite of his obvious character flaws, the Delcaration of Independence is still a great document.  It would be even better if all countries had their own and weren't subjugated to the powers that be.

Everyone knows the Israeli government is an unjust terroristic organization, including them.  The humans of the area would like peace through mutual kindness, but the self-serving politicians in Israel, America, England and even Phalasteen refuse to allow that.

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 30 November 2005 at 9:26am

Somehow, you always hit the nail in the head. And, in a short, sweet most effective way. I love the logic of "compassion" preached by some Americans - Israel can Dera Yassin and approx 500 other villages - drive out 740,000 men, women and chidren - the archives admit that it's being done per a plan

BUT, when the oppressed retaliate, hell breaks loose and, we hear grand shouts of "FOUL".

Great compassion, MacJustice!

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Quote b95000 Replybullet Posted: 30 November 2005 at 1:55pm

W: Our good old Brits are known for sowing discontent, dividing and ruling and all those sorts of things. They way Israel was created + the way Israel behaved with the people of the area was almost like a hood being forced onto a neighbourhood.

The Anglo-Americans created it for fear and strife in the area. What do you expect? Peace and harmony?

The results of following the ways of some Machiavellis or Leo Strauss s are before us. We can rid of this hell only by finding the divine string!

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To whatever extent the Brits and the US and the West were involved in injustices to the Palestinians - this needs to be addressed.  But, as you say, moving forward we must find a 'divine string' and if that's to be done in must be done on BOTH SIDES. 

Are you and herjihad claiming that the Jews have 'no rights' and that the Jewish government is completely - a 'terrorist organization?'

I would never say the same about 'all Palestinians.' 

Such generalizations never help and always hurt...why go there?

Let's get to a 'divine string' - why don't we?

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