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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 11:22am

Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab

I just want to clarify that I do not blindly follow any man. I think most of the people who call themselves "Christian Scholars" have been deceived. These scholars say that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are one, but you and I both know that this is not true. I have studied the Greek manuscripts, I know the history of where they came from and who complied them. I'm not ignorant here, I made it my life to study and find out what the Word of God is. I have not always held the Bible to be true, I was an athiest for quite some time.

Anyway, on we go.

If Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (pbut) were standing before you, do you believe they would argue over who's religion was correct? Do you believe they would argue over who's God was the real God?

Ofcourse they would not argue. They would embrass as Brothers in the SAME FAITH.

How then should we act any differently?

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 12:20pm

But we need to realize that the Bible and the Qur'an say different things about these people. Look at the account of Jesus, the Bible says He was crucified and the Qur'an says he wasn't. One of these accounts is simply wrong. But you won't say that the Qur'an is wrong and I won't say that the Bible is wrong. We don't have common ground, do we?

I agree that those men would embrace as Brothers in the same faith, but is Islam, Christianity and Judaism the same faith? I don't think so.

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 12:48pm

Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab

But we need to realize that the Bible and the Qur'an say different things about these people. Look at the account of Jesus, the Bible says He was crucified and the Qur'an says he wasn't. One of these accounts is simply wrong. But you won't say that the Qur'an is wrong and I won't say that the Bible is wrong. We don't have common ground, do we?

I agree that those men would embrace as Brothers in the same faith, but is Islam, Christianity and Judaism the same faith? I don't think so.

Show me one scripture where Moses said he was a Jew; where Jesus said he was a Christian; the Faith is obedience to Allah.

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 3:47pm

Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab

Hi everyone,

I'm new here and I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm not a Muslim, but I married a Pakistani girl and have always been intrested in Muslim culture. I hope we can have some good talks in the future.

blessings to you and yours in the name of our lord the Christ!

it is good to see another christian here....

you faith will be strengthened here as well as challenged...

i encourage you to strap your seatbelt in and enjoy stimulating conversation with the people here at islamicity and thank them for this medium of communication.....

iron sharpens iron here my brother in christ....dont ever stray away from the truth my brother....

tawhid

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:07pm

The truth is we will never know anything about these thousand year old manuscripts because History has been altered in every account upto are everyday lives.

A holy book is only made alive when God confirms. When I say confirms, not through the words of the book but when he answers your prayers!

When God confirms through your prayers which is the true book or faith, then that book will have life. In this day of age one shouldn't beleive men, family, mother, father or the history of men. One should look up to God and get his confirmation.

Only then will the truth set you free!

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:23pm

my brother...the truth set me free once ive accepted christ in my heart - as more than a prophet...but GOd incarnate which has been confirmed by God's holy spirit

tawhid

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Posted: 07 April 2005 at 5:55am

Originally posted by blond

Show me one scripture where Moses said he was a Jew; where Jesus said he was a Christian; the Faith is obedience to Allah.

Names mean nothing. It doesn't matter what you are labeled, what matters is the heart. You know that.

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Posted: 07 April 2005 at 7:09am

Wise words.

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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 11:22am
	*Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab* I just want to clarify that I do not blindly follow any man. I think most of the people who call themselves "Christian Scholars" have been deceived. These scholars say that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are one, but you and I both know that this is not true. I have studied the Greek manuscripts, I know the history of where they came from and who complied them. I'm not ignorant here, I made it my life to study and find out what the Word of God is. I have not always held the Bible to be true, I was an athiest for quite some time. Anyway, on we go. If Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (pbut) were standing before you, do you believe they would argue over who's religion was correct? Do you believe they would argue over who's God was the real God? Ofcourse they would not argue. They would embrass as Brothers in the SAME FAITH. How then should we act any differently?
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Ahl al-kitab Newbie Joined: 28 March 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 12:20pm
	But we need to realize that the Bible and the Qur'an say different things about these people. Look at the account of Jesus, the Bible says He was crucified and the Qur'an says he wasn't. One of these accounts is simply wrong. But you won't say that the Qur'an is wrong and I won't say that the Bible is wrong. We don't have common ground, do we? I agree that those men would embrace as Brothers in the same faith, but is Islam, Christianity and Judaism the same faith? I don't think so.

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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 12:48pm
	*Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab* But we need to realize that the Bible and the Qur'an say different things about these people. Look at the account of Jesus, the Bible says He was crucified and the Qur'an says he wasn't. One of these accounts is simply wrong. But you won't say that the Qur'an is wrong and I won't say that the Bible is wrong. We don't have common ground, do we? I agree that those men would embrace as Brothers in the same faith, but is Islam, Christianity and Judaism the same faith? I don't think so. Show me one scripture where Moses said he was a Jew; where Jesus said he was a Christian; the Faith is obedience to Allah.
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tawhid Groupie Joined: 28 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 3:47pm
	*Originally posted by Ahl al-kitab* Hi everyone, I'm new here and I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm not a Muslim, but I married a Pakistani girl and have always been intrested in Muslim culture. I hope we can have some good talks in the future. blessings to you and yours in the name of our lord the Christ! it is good to see another christian here.... you faith will be strengthened here as well as challenged... i encourage you to strap your seatbelt in and enjoy stimulating conversation with the people here at islamicity and thank them for this medium of communication..... iron sharpens iron here my brother in christ....dont ever stray away from the truth my brother.... tawhid
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ChrisNo1 Newbie Joined: 02 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 19	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:07pm
	The truth is we will never know anything about these thousand year old manuscripts because History has been altered in every account upto are everyday lives. A holy book is only made alive when God confirms. When I say confirms, not through the words of the book but when he answers your prayers! When God confirms through your prayers which is the true book or faith, then that book will have life. In this day of age one shouldn't beleive men, family, mother, father or the history of men. One should look up to God and get his confirmation. Only then will the truth set you free! I
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tawhid Groupie Joined: 28 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 6:23pm
	my brother...the truth set me free once ive accepted christ in my heart - as more than a prophet...but GOd incarnate which has been confirmed by God's holy spirit tawhid
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Ahl al-kitab Newbie Joined: 28 March 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Posted: 07 April 2005 at 5:55am
	*Originally posted by blond* Show me one scripture where Moses said he was a Jew; where Jesus said he was a Christian; the Faith is obedience to Allah. Names mean nothing. It doesn't matter what you are labeled, what matters is the heart. You know that.

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fezziwig Senior Member Joined: 29 October 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1959	Posted: 07 April 2005 at 7:09am
	Wise words. F
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