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Quote airmano Replybullet Posted: 08 April 2014 at 8:55am
Well,

in the long run the truth will always win...

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Quote schmikbob Replybullet Posted: 08 April 2014 at 8:37pm
That's a big generalization. Not sure I believe it.

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Quote airmano Replybullet Posted: 10 April 2014 at 2:28pm
Sure,

when I wrote this sentence you couldn't see the little ironical twinkle in my eyes (and I try to avoid emoticons)

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Quote Al-Kitab Replybullet Posted: 11 April 2014 at 9:13am
What if I go two steps better.

Get a list of the Fibonacci spirals numbers

at the 20th to 25th first digits are 611247.

Track the occurrence of this sequence.

For convenience, I have already done it for you.

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(due to the size of data here is the extended list but try it for yourself)

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You will notice a pattern,
I have only written the first couple of digit of the number, just to emphasis the pattern.


The Green bar row is just its related position.
The yellow row is the position of the sequence (starting at 20)

The repetition is at intervals of 19-24-24 respectively. Continually.

I can see the significance of both 19 and 24 and I can go further in to detail but how do you get significance of 42?


But like I said I will go one better for you.

I will give you an equation that is on every page of the quran.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12....

Our numerical system has potentially a never ending amount of numbers. The more you count, the more we can plus another one.
Potentially an infinite amount...

But in truth""..
Only one number does exist

The number "1"

E.g 1 + 1 + 1 = 3

That is because "1" explains itself and every other number.
In fact, every number is a repetition (more precisely a reproduction) of the number "1".

Not only does it explain every whole number but it also explains every type of number.
For example a fraction or a decimal point is a "part of "1"".

50% =
1/2 =
0.5 OF 1

Therefore because everything can be explained by "1", it means nothing is outside of "1"s reach,

so its not that 1 repeats itself to get another one, but it means everything is WITHIN the number 1.
Its called "Russell's paradox".
(even if there are multi universes it means they must be a part of a greater 1)

Simply put "1" is the core of our mathematical numeric system, period.

What's so special about "1" is it is also complete

1 = 100%

In maths, when something is complete It MUST have a bound and an end.

In maths this is signified with brackets ( )

( <------bound, beginning
) <------end, finish

*****(We do not use the brackets because we consider it common knowledge.)

In maths we rarely use it but Brackets explain grouping pairs or completion in maths. That is why brackets are done first in arithmetical equation

e.g
(3+2) x (3+1) = 20
or
(5) x (4) = (20)
5 x 4 = 20

One is 100% completely bounded and ended to itself.

(1) or (100%)

Hence this instantly means "(1)", the number "1" is the finite because of is finite restriction.

ANYTHING that can be calculated is.

Instantly our universe becomes finite (1) even if it has potentially infinite possibilities (∞).

This is what has come to be known as potential infinite, even though it's just studying the ∞ possibilities within (1).

If we accept (∞) as anything more it would be the greatest oxymoron in the history of mankind.

There is also another restriction of the number (1)

That is because by itself can not do much.
It needs a medium or a language to communicate.

multiple, divide, square root Etc are all fancy and group methods of doing the core symbols of maths.

Addition and subtraction
+ -

Just like (1),

(+|-) addition and subtraction can explain themselves and every other type of calculations.

Example

3x2 =6
(1+1+1) + (1+1+1) = (1+1+1+1+1+1)

So inside every (1) we have (+|-).

E.g

Man = (1)
And he has (+|-) within himself.

Think of anything Positive and negative, Addition subtraction, Time space, Proton electron, Good Bad, Right Wrong, Light Dark
We can even say
Yin Yang for good measure
All we have is equal and opposites and one can not exist without the other. Black exists because of white and vice versa.
Think of anything, chemistry, biology, physics even non scientific subjects like morale; you can even say from a materialistic morale point of view, water is our greatest asset, the reason for life yet, our greatest restriction.

Anything from a positive and a negative within a finite position can be explained quite easily.

(+ -) within (1)


Now to make it interesting..........
Scientifically we know we are living in 1 x (E=mc2), we are restricted.

My question is say we calculated everything that exists in our (1) universe.

Hypothetically lets say

everything = (100)

What would be

1 + (100) = ?

It can not be 101
Reason
Everything has already been calculated and it equalled (100)

Let me rephrase the question
from my brief explanation above what would be

1 + (finite)
1 + (maths)
1 + (1)
1 + (universe)
1 + (everything)
1 + (100%)
1 + (E=mc2)
1 + (+|-)
????

It must be something outside of the bound and end (brackets)
Our concept of this is called

Absolute (meaning 100%)

Infinity

A CONCEPT (NOT A NUMBER) beyond all bounds "(" and ends ")"

So in an equation

1 + (1) = ∞

Or as explained before the core language of (1) is maths (+|-)

The theory of Absolute Infinity

1 + (+|-) = ∞

Even though I have not surpassed our laws of mathematics, it displays something beyond mathematics.

What so special about this equation?

It explain outside of our brackets

God is complete 1
100%
Yet he is incomprehensible



It explains that we have the option of either choosing a + path or - negative

If on the day of judgment "=" (The day of TOTALLING/Tallying/equal sign)

our good deeds out way our bad

1 + ( + > - ) = + ∞

You will end up in eternal positive or heaven

Respectively

1 + ( + < -) = - ∞
Hell

God 1 = ∞
Created +
Everything (+ - )
and he only gives + "good" to all creation
and everything (1) was made in pairs (+ - )

LETS GET INTO SCIENCE:
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Quote: "If an object tries to travel 186,000 miles per second, its mass becomes infinite, and so does the energy required to move it. For this reason, no normal object can travel as fast or faster than the speed of light."

So if something exceeds this limit (1) its mass becomes infinite.
1 + (1) = ∞
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Mathematics studies the (+ | " ) laws to understand the (1) value.

Science studies the (1) value to understand the ( + | " ) laws.

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Quantum Mechanics states for nothing to create something, laws must be in place for nothing to produce something.

The equation covers this aspect quite easily".

A law is something that governs its subjects. It is not an actual physical entity and can not be expressed as the value 1.

It is however an addition which must preexist our mathematical restrictions, as quantum mechanics states.

+ ( + | " ) This is the equation of Quantum mechanics,

And this (+|-) is what governing physics studies
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Prisca Theologia

+(+|-) Atheist, understand natural law exist and Quanta

(∞)=∞ Pantheist, the universe is God

(1)=∞ Buddha said, look within yourself (1) and find your personal (∞) nirvana.

( 1 + (+|-) = ∞) Christianity,

father 1=∞
holy spirit +
son (+|-)

Exterior brackets trinity
(holy spirit is the deliverer of the law, the son is earthly bound (+-) son)
Even though Jesus can have potentially have an (∞) possibilities within him, he can never be God. That is why he always said the father ∞ is greater than I (1)

Islam
Surah 112

Say he is one
1
on all whom depend +
he begets not, (+)
nor is begotten (-)
(+|-)
and none is like him ∞

---->It is everywhere (on every page in every Surah) in the Quran .<--------

Cantor actually coined the word “transfinite” in an attempt to distinguish the various levels of infinite numbers from an Absolute Infinity 100% ∞ , an incomprehensible concept beyond mathematics itself, which then Cantor effectively equated with God (he saw no contradiction between his mathematics and the traditional concept of God)

I'm merely saying the same thing.
It doesn't matter if you call this concept Allah, God, Absolute Infinite. Whats important to understand is that a concept beyond anything calculable (including all the potential infinities) does exist, as Cantor proclaimed.

To leave you with some food for thought,

We humans are (1) within this Big (1)
Every (1) human is restricted to its experiences ( + - ) .
Everything (1) that exists is restricted to its own.

For example

We can not imagine what someone else imagines to the exact detail nor can we conjure up something unimaginable because everything you imagine is subject to your own wiring and experiences or, your moment in time within the space of your life.

If every human analysed the exact same picture, the picture stored in all our brain will always be uniquely ours and different to everyone else's. ALWAYS.

Nothing outside of your restricted (1) can be contemplated because we are restricted by our unique Addition and Subtraction. (+ -).

This is what I consider is the human mental capacity blind spot.

There is an infinite possible chances of there being other realms out there, but your realm is restricted to you.
I'll try explaining it this way,

If we never communicated ever do I really exist for you or vice versa.

Mathematically yes I am tangible but because you never experience me I would be your mental blind spot.

If you want to go deeper in the rabbit hole….. even though we've contacted each other now and we're communicating, you STILL can't be sure I exist. The only thing you can be sure about is yourself.

That means (+-) everything was made for you (1).

Theres an easy way of proving the world was made only for your experience.

Prostrate and put your head on the ground.

Your the centre point of the earth. The highest point.
The earth is round.

No matter where on earth you go, you are its focal point of balance. Quite literally your on top of the world……..and the day you reach your appointed time (not me) will be the day the world ends.

I thank you for your time and space (+-)
May ∞ bless you
James


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Quote airmano Replybullet Posted: 13 April 2014 at 3:10pm
One thing after the other !

Were is the link that mosquitos use photosynthesis ?

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Quote schmikbob Replybullet Posted: 13 April 2014 at 6:24pm
I can't believe you can attach all this significance to the number 1 but can't see the universal importance of the number 42. I would guess that you've never seen or used an infinite improbability generator either.
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Quote airmano Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2014 at 12:55pm
Another miracle debunked ?

No reply to my question ?
So mosquitos don't use photosynthesis ?

As long as you don't reply I consider your "miracle"
as utter trash.

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Quote Al-Kitab Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2014 at 2:38am
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Another miracle debunked ?

No reply to my question ?
So mosquitos don't use photosynthesis ?

As long as you don't reply I consider your "miracle"
as utter trash.

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I already answered your question IN THE FIRST RESPONSE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototaxis

Quote: Phototaxis is a kind of taxis, or locomotory movement, that occurs when a whole organism moves towards or away from stimulus of light.[1] This is advantageous for phototrophic organisms as they can orient themselves most efficiently to receive light for photosynthesis
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