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Quote Fatah-Momin Replybullet Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:39pm
I have not declined from presenting rerfrences, this is still an ongoing thread at the end of the article, the refrence of the book/books will be provieded, if any one has any objection to authenticity of any event he/she can put forth that particular event. If you think that it is necessary to put forth refrence prematurely, please let me know and I will do accordingly. This though will result in the loss of interest by other members in the thread.
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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 01 November 2005 at 10:45pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

giving a refrence will allow people to judge and see whether they are  reading the works of respected scholars or sects. I would like to know the refrence.

Why are you posting this in small snipets post the entire article.
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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 02 November 2005 at 4:51pm

Bismillah,

Go ahead and give your references Brother Fatah.  Make it a reference post, and then we can get on with reading the story you are posting.

  Thanks!

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Quote Fatah-Momin Replybullet Posted: 02 November 2005 at 9:55pm

One of the book that I am using is "A brief history of Islam " by Dr. Hasanuddin Ahmed. Pg: 140 to 150, "Biographies of the Women Companions of the Holy Prophet" By Qazi Mohammad Saeed will use other books to in future.



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Quote Fatah-Momin Replybullet Posted: 03 November 2005 at 10:52am
Ubaidullah bin Ziad deputed Umar Bin Sa'ad to Hussain[ra] for peace talks. In the first round of talks Hussain[ra] agreed to take oath of allegiance. Ubaidullah bin Ziad sent a small army to have an eye on the people of Kufa who were likely to create trouble, On the way Hur bin Yazid met Hussain[ra] with any army and insisted that he should go to Kufa. When he refused the people of Kufa demanded their letters written to him should be returned to them. Hussain[ra] refused. The Kufites at this time played the same mischief that they had played earlier at the battle of Jumal.
On the one hand they attacked women tent where the bags containing the letters were kept and set fire to the tents and on the other attacked the army sent by Ubaidullah bin Ziad. In confusion thus created, Hussain[ra] with his male family members was killed. The army of ibn Ziad fought in defence which is evident from the fact that 88 persons from his army were killed against 72 from Hussain's[ra] party.

According to Tabari this unfortunate and avoidable incidence occured on 22nd Safar 61 Hijra [680 CE]. In 352 Hijra [963 CE] Mu'izud Dowlah Dailami[after 291 years] laid foundation of mass mourning and fixed the date as 10th of Moharram.
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Quote Community Replybullet Posted: 03 November 2005 at 10:55am

The only thing i am sure about in the history of islam is that the prophet and the faithful got persecuted, had to migrate and eventually fight against those who would not sease attacking them and killing them for their faith, the way of Allah got cleared from such intollerant opressors by the faithful and thus the affair of Allah was settled in the lands and they were victorious, in other words religious freedom was esteblished. This can all be found in the koran.

As for Europe and other nations, the moment they implemented religious freedom most muslimeen seased fighting against them because the mission was completed, except a few states who claimed islam as the state religion. A muslim can practice and call to his faith everywhere in the world without being persecuted or killed, this is the whole purpose of jihaad, except if the muslim is hostile and wishes to conquer by force, then what can you hold against those who deffend themselves against such. Bagiy in arabic is conquest and it is forbidden for the faithful to engage in such warfare, this too can be found in the koran.

 

 



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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:11am

Bismillah,

The history of our dear prophet's grandchildren is one of the most important things to know in Islaamic history.  He loved these children so much, and never departed from his love for them, yet look at this story of brutal murder for his family member!  When we pray, we pray for Muhammad, pbuh, and his family. 

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Quote Fatah-Momin Replybullet Posted: 03 November 2005 at 4:04pm

Yes very true that Hz. Muhammad Mustafa-o-Mujtaba [saw] loved his grand children a lot, and did spend time with them. This does not give any one right to obscure the history and lay blame on the people who are innocent of the charges against them.

Must remember that Quran take precedence over all the other source. Including Hadith. In Quran Allah has raised the status and virtues of the companions of the Nabi Allah[saw] May Allah be pleased with them all.

The history has been obscured so musch that today no one know about the main participant of the events, eg. Ubaudullah Bin Ziad was right hand man of Hz. Ali [ra] and fought alongside him in battle of Jumal against Ummal momineen Hz. Ayesha siddika[ra], he was appointed Governor of Kufa during the life time of Ameerul Momineen Hz. Ali Assaduallah[ra].

Shimr the man who severed the head of Hz. Hussain[ra] from his body was the brother in law of Ameerul Momineen Hz. Ali[ra]. 

Why is the history of these characters not introduce to the muslims when narrating the history, who are the people who are obscuring the history for their personal gains and creating unbreachable rift in Ummah.  

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