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ramadan k
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ramadan k
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libnah
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Palestine is sacred for Jews.
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MOCKBA
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![]() Posted: 29 June 2005 at 6:46am |
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Originally posted by ibnah
Palestine is sacred for Jews. and so must be Iraq for Americans |
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Daniel Dworsky
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Joined: 17 March 2005 Location: Israel Online Status: Offline Posts: 777 |
![]() Posted: 29 June 2005 at 2:07pm |
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Hi Mockba,
:-) Funny. Welcome aboard Libnah. Yes Palestine is sacred to the Jews And the Christians AND to the Muslims. May Allah Bless us every one. The only problem is that it belongs to the Palestinians. This isn't a moral problem for the Palestinians. They already live here and they've already taken the trouble of naming the place after themselves. If you believe everything you read they were stumbling around here long before Little David allegedly slew Goliath. Before Emile Zola saved Dreyfus and inspired Theodore Hertzel to find " A land with out a people for a people with out a land." Before Paul Newman played in Exodus and even before Barry Manilow played in Vegas... Okay try to forget about Barry Manilow. He has nothing to do with any of this and it's not his fault. I live not five minutes walk from an old Philistine port in the ancient city of Atlit. Just a tad north up the coast another 2 minutes walk is a real live Crusader Castle. With a moat and turrets and an out door amphitheater. In Atlit the land was not bought out by the JNF because the land has long been privately owned by Muslim and Jewish families long before the Americans had their independence from the British. We are sort of an Island in that respect. These families share a tradition of solidarity that goes back before the Turks and the British Mandate. Just across the coast Highway is the old Aharonson farm two members of that family were hanged (Not hung) in 1914 after they were caught spying on the Turks for the evil British. That was like about the last exciting thing to happen here for a while. We (Jews) fled Nazi Europe as if leaping from the window of a burning house. We landed on the Palestinian people who for the most part were/ are pretty helpful, downright descent and generous people. This is where it all goes crazy. We flooded in and in many cases (even a few cases is too many) we stole the land outright. Not just farm land or a couple of Dunams of dessert but entire villages. Many of the Arabs living here were tribal and "nomadic" In the case of the Beduin they held regular migratory stations that they returned to each year. In the 20's-40's The British dug them permanant wells, built prefab homes around those (wells) and told them to stay where they were. Sort of like a reservation or a concentration camp only they (The Beduin) were free to leave ...which they did, and when they came back, they ran into fences, orchards, rows of cotton. I had a tribe that camped regularly in the field outside my house to graze their livestock. My son would top off all our glasses with ice water for the men and all our big cooking pots were filled with a garden hose for the animals. These families have since been settled in caravan homes but the men show up a couple of times a year and share coffee with my son (Joey) and I. We talk politics a lot and laugh like total idiots. Edited by Daniel Dworsky |
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Zionist13
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Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky
We flooded in and in many cases (even a few cases is too many) we stole the land outright. Not just farm land or a couple of Dunams of dessert but entire villages. This is a complete lie Daniel, and you know it! |
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Zionist13
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![]() Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:17pm |
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Originally posted by MOCKBA
Originally posted by ibnah
Palestine is sacred for Jews. and so must be Iraq for Americans Jews were in the land for 3000 years, before Arabs! |
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Daniel Dworsky
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Joined: 17 March 2005 Location: Israel Online Status: Offline Posts: 777 |
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Originally posted by Zionist13
Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky
I had a tribe that camped regularly in the field outside my house to graze their livestock. My son would top off all our glasses with ice water for the men and all our big cooking pots were filled with a garden hose for the animals. These families have since been settled in caravan homes but the men show up a couple of times a year and share coffee with my son (Joey) and I. We talk politics a lot and laugh like total idiots. Hi appeasenik! Why am I not surprised to find you here? Are you going
Allow? ALLOW? I called in favors to get the duty. I'm going to be BUSTING them I love my country. I've put my life on the line and my family at risk for doing my job by the book professionally and according to international convention. I refuse to be like one of these German Civilians that just watched the trains go by in 1939. What the Israeli government (MY) government and Israeli army (MY) army is doing now in Palestine and perhaps has always done is a shake down. Yes. there is Terrorism and Terrorism is intolerable. "Collateral damage" is intolerable. Solo Sniper Practice head shots on two palestinian children hanging laundry on a roof top is intolerable. I know many Palestinians committed to peace and nonviolence. People that are morally unshakeable and that Martin Luther King of blessed memory if he were alive to day, would be proud to know. Edited by Daniel Dworsky |
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