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Quote libnah Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2005 at 6:37am
Palestine is sacred for Jews.
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Quote MOCKBA Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2005 at 6:46am

Originally posted by ibnah

Palestine is sacred for Jews.

and so must be Iraq for Americans

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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2005 at 2:07pm
Hi Mockba,
:-) Funny.
Welcome aboard Libnah. Yes Palestine is sacred to the Jews And the
Christians AND to the Muslims. May Allah Bless us every one.

The only problem is that it belongs to the Palestinians. This isn't a moral
problem for the Palestinians. They already live here and they've already
taken the trouble of naming the place after themselves. If you believe
everything you read they were stumbling around here long before Little
David allegedly slew Goliath. Before Emile Zola saved Dreyfus and
inspired Theodore Hertzel to find…" A land with out a people for a people
with out a land." Before Paul Newman played in Exodus and even before
Barry Manilow played in Vegas... Okay try to forget about Barry Manilow.
He has nothing to do with any of this and it's not his fault.

I live not five minutes walk from an old Philistine port in the ancient city
of Atlit. Just a tad north up the coast another 2 minutes walk is a real live
Crusader Castle. With a moat and turrets and an out door amphitheater.

In Atlit the land was not bought out by the JNF because the land has long
been privately owned by Muslim and Jewish families long before the
Americans had their independence from the British. We are sort of an
Island in that respect. These families share a tradition of solidarity that
goes back before the Turks and the British Mandate. Just across the coast
Highway is the old Aharonson farm two members of that family were
hanged (Not hung) in 1914 after they were caught spying on the Turks for
the evil British. That was like about the last exciting thing to happen here
for a while.

We (Jews) fled Nazi Europe as if leaping from the window of a burning
house. We landed on the Palestinian people who for the most part were/
are pretty helpful, downright descent and generous people. This is where
it all goes crazy. We flooded in and in many cases (even a few cases is
too many) we stole the land outright. Not just farm land or a couple of
Dunams of dessert but entire villages. Many of the Arabs living here were
tribal and "nomadic" In the case of the Beduin they held regular migratory
stations that they returned to each year. In the 20's-40's The British dug
them permanant wells, built prefab homes around those (wells) and told
them to stay where they were.
Sort of like a reservation or a concentration camp only they (The Beduin)
were free to leave ...which they did, and when they came back, they ran
into fences, orchards, rows of cotton.

I had a tribe that camped regularly in the field outside my house to graze
their livestock. My son would top off all our glasses with ice water for the
men and all our big cooking pots were filled with a garden hose for the
animals. These families have since been settled in caravan homes but the
men show up a couple of times a year and share coffee with my son (Joey)
and I. We talk politics a lot and laugh like total idiots.



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Quote Zionist13 Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:15pm

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

We flooded in and in many cases (even a few cases is
too many) we stole the land outright. Not just farm land or a couple of
Dunams of dessert but entire villages.

This is a complete lie Daniel, and you know it!

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Quote Zionist13 Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:17pm
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Palestine is sacred for Jews.

and so must be Iraq for Americans

Jews were in the land for 3000 years, before Arabs!

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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Zionist13

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

I had a tribe that camped
regularly in the field outside my house to graze their livestock. My son
would top off all our glasses with ice water for the men and all our big
cooking pots were filled with a garden hose for the animals. These
families have since been settled in caravan homes but the men show up a
couple of times a year and share coffee with my son (Joey) and I. We talk
politics a lot and laugh like total idiots.


Hi appeasenik! Why am I not surprised to find you here? Are you going
to allow the appeasenik government to remove those people from their
homes, or will you protest!  I don't get you, sonny. You claim you want
peace, but you're consorting with the enemy!


Allow? ALLOW? I called in favors to get the duty.   I'm going to be
BUSTING them

I love my country. I've put my life on the line and my family at risk for
doing my job by the book professionally and according to international
convention. I refuse to be like one of these German Civilians that just
watched the trains go by in 1939.

What the Israeli government (MY) government and Israeli army (MY) army
is doing now in Palestine and perhaps has always done is a shake down.
Yes. there is Terrorism and Terrorism is intolerable.

"Collateral damage" is intolerable.

Solo Sniper Practice head shots on two palestinian children hanging
laundry on a roof top is intolerable.

I know many Palestinians committed to peace and nonviolence. People
that are morally unshakeable and that Martin Luther King of blessed
memory if he were alive to day, would be proud to know.

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