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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 3:53pm
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Why do 85 % of the Christians follow the Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle . Who came to teach the Gentiles  ,
 
Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle of the Gentiles  .
 
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At this time I feel it is quite necessary to show You . Enoch - E -Nok , Aramic / Hebrew '' He who is dedicated to the Law '' Akh - Nuwkh , Ashuric Syriac / Arabic '' Dedicated '' , Enos - E -Nowsh , Aramic / Hebrew '' Mortal '' , Anuws - Ashuric Syriac / Arabic '' Man in his frility , Forgetful Being ''  Enoshites -  Enosites - Aramic / Hebrew '' Human Beings , Mortal Beings .
 
How for years Christians have propagated as Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ , Who you all refer to as Jesus Christ what they feel as Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ '' Teaching . It is obvious that they don't have a Clear Understanding to the Questions they are asked , So they figure they'll just tell them anything . Since Christians have  propagated that Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ 'is their '' Personal Savior '' , I want to know , If that's so , Then why don't they follow the same ''Laws That Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ Followed ?
 
For example . You don't find Christians Dressing like Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ '( Dressed ) in his times ! And they know how he dressed , Don't let them fool you . They read about it every day or every Sunday or every Friday depending on their Beliefs . When they read their Bibles , In Revealtion 3 ; 5  , 4 ; 4 , 6 ; 11 . They know because you find them wearing White for their Baptism Ceremonies , You also find them wearing the Veil when they are getting Married . Most of their Pictures of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ ' Show him wearing A Long White Robe . Read these Quotes and tell me they don't know , Or are they Just Too Lazy to follow all of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ 'Laws the way they say they do .
 
The Book of Revealtion 3 ; 5 , Where It States ;  As For Him Who Overcomes And Repents , So Surely He Will Be ( Dressed In White ) Outer Garments And I , Will Not Remove His Name From The Scroll Of Life . Rather , I Will Confess And Speak Up For His Name Before My Patayr ( Adopted ) Father And Before His Angelos . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
The Book of Revealtion 4 ; 4  , Where It States ;  And All Around The Throne Were 24 Thrones ; And I Saw 24 Elders Sittting , Clothed In White Outer Garments ; On Their Heads Crowns Of Gold .  < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
The Book of Revealtion 6 ; 11   , Where It States ;  And White Outer Garments , Were Given To Each Of Them . And It Was Said Unto Them Rest A Little While Longer , Until Their Fellow Servants Who Had Been Killed .  < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Why don't The Christians Practice The Sabbath on the same day such as Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ did , If they say they follow his Laws ? And you know they know because The Seven Day Adventists and The Jehovah's Witnesses Do ( Mark 2 ; 27 ) . Christian don't pray like Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Prayed . You know what gets me , And I want to ask you . Why is the Pope always Seen Prostrating ? ( Matthew 14 ; 23  , 26 ; 39 ) . 
 
 Mark 2 ; 27 , Where It States ; And He Said Unto Them , The Sabbath Was Made For Man And Not Man For The Sabbath . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible > 
 
Matthew 14 ; 23  ,Where It States ; And When He Had Sent The Multitudes Away , He Went Up Into A Mountain Apart To Pray ; And When The Evening Was Come , He Was There Alone . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible > 
 
Matthew 26 ; 39   ,Where It States ; And He Went A Little Farther And Fell On His Face And Prayed Saying O My Father If It Be Possible Let This Cup Pass From Me Nevertheless Not As I Will But As Thou Wilt . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
So I'm just asking , What Laws are the Christians following ? When they say they follow Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus footstep and are waiting for his return someday ? During the time of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus the Children of Israel had strayed far , Far away from The Laws that Thoth - Moses ( Moses ) , Son of Amram and Jochebed , Taught and Followed , He was the one sent to deliver the Children of Israel from the land of ( Egypt ) ,
 
 ( In which they were in Captivity for over 430 years ( Exodus 12 ; 40 ) . Remember the twelve tribes were brought into the land of Egypt by way of Joseph ( Son of Jacob ) by his favorite wife Rachel ( Exodus 1 ; 5 - 7 ) , After Thutmose ( Moses ) successfully released the children of Israel out of Bondage , He was given A Set of Laws , Commandments , And Tablets so that the children of Israel could obey his Instructions . ( Exodus 24 ; 12 ) .
 
Exodus 12 ; 40 , Where It States ; Now The Sojourning Of The Children Of Israel , Who Dwelt In Egypt , Was Four Hundred And Thirty Years . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 1 ; 5 - 7  , Where It States ; And All The Soul That Came Out Of The Loins Of Jacob Were Seventy Souls ; For Joseph Was In Egypt Already . ( 6 ) . And Joseph Died , And All His Breathren And All That Generation . ( 7 ) . And The Children Of Isreal Were Fruithful , And Increased Abundantly , And Multiplied , And Waxed Exceeding Mighty ; And The Land Was Filled With Them . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Exodus 24 ; 12  , Where It States ; And The LORD Said Unto Moses , Come Up To Me Into The Mount , And Be There ; And I Will Give Thee Tables Of Stone , And A Law And Commandment Which I Have Written That Thou Mayest Teach Them . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Thutmose ( Moses ) received his Scriptures in portions ; They are often referred to as '' Pentateuch '' . Derived from the Greek for '' Five Scrolls '' , This term applies collectively to the first Five books of the Old Testament , These are the Five Books of the Old Testament .
 
Genesis completed in ( 1512 B.C.E. ) , Exodus completed in ( 1512 B.C.E. ) , Leviticus completed in ( 1512 B.C.E. ) ,  Numbers  completed in ( 1473 B.C.E. )  , Deuteronomy  completed in ( 1473 B.C.E. ) ..
 
In Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) these books are referred to as At Tawraah - arabic . This word originates from the Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) Root word ''Wara'a - arabic - and its meaning may be expressed in the well known saying '' Seeing Is Believing '' .
 
The ( Aramic ) Hebrew name for these books is '' Torah '' - aramic - which means '' Law '' Or '' Teaching '' In the sense of divine instruction . Many people think that the Old Testament consists of 39 Books , However , The Torah that was inspired to Thutmose ( Moses ) only consisted of five books ; Genesis , Exodus , Leviticus , Numbers , and Deuteronomy .
 
A ) Genesis - Arabic - At Takwin  /  Modern Hebrew < Barashith - aramic > meaning '' The Reconstruction '' or '' The Very Beginning '' from the Greek word Ghennaysis 50 Chapters revealed in 1512 B.C.E. was given to the Prophet / Apostle Moses in Syraic ( Ancient ) Arabic at the age of 80 in the wilderness , In 1512 B.C.E. This book contains the account of man's creation , the great flood of the Prophet / Apostle Noah's ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) , son of Lamech , time and a large record of early history of the Prophet Adam ( 4026 - 3096 B.C.E. ) down to Joseph ( 1818 - 1708  B.C.E . ) the son of Jacob ( 1918 - 1771 B.C.E. ) .
 
B ) The Book of Exodus - Arabic , Al Khuruw / in Modern Hebrew < Shimut - aramic >  meaning '' Names '' or '' Departure , Going Out '' from the Greek word Ex meaning '' Out of , From '' and Dod meaning '' Way '' 40 Chapters  revealed in 1512 B.C.E. The Prophet / Apostle Moses received the book in Syriac ( Ancient ) Arabic and Hebrew in the wilderness in 1512 B.C.E. This book entails recordings of the history of the Children of Israel and their journey to the land Canaan under the leadership of The Prophet / Apostle Moses .
 
C ) The Book of Leviticus - Arabic Al Lawin , / in Modern Hebrew Wayikra - aramic - Which means '' The Law '' . The Prophet / Apostle Moses received the book in Syriac ( Ancient ) Arabic / Aramic / Hebrew  while in the in the wilderness in 1512 B.C.E. The book entails the laws concerning morals , cleanliness , dietary habits , etc . 27 Chapters reavealed in 1512 B.C.E. 
 
D ) The Book of Numbers - Arabic - Al Adad /  in Modern Hebrew < Bimidbar - aramic > Which mean '' Counting the People '' . The revelation was received by The Prophet / Apostle Moses in 1512 B.C.E. The book entails the laws concerning morals , cleanliness , dietary habits , etc 36 Chapters revealed in 1473 B.C.E. 
 
 E ) The Book Deuteronomy - Arabic Al Tathniyah /  in Modern Hebrew < Dibarim - aramic >  Literally means '' The Repetition of the Law ''  This book was given to The Prophet / Apostle Moses in Syriac Arabic in the Plains of Moab during 1473 B.C.E. . This books contains accounts of the end of The Prophet / Apostle Moses' days with the Rebellious Israelites and the beginning of their destruction . The last two chapters of Deuteronomy was received by his brother , the Prophet Aaron ( 1596 - 1473 B.C.E. ) . 34 Chapters revealed in 1473 B.C.E.
 
Whithin these books , Besides the details of the life and actions of the messengers , Starting from ( Adam ) and the ending with the Prophet Muhammad . They contained Codes of Laws that were given to Thutmose ( Moses ) for the ordering of the common life . This is why when you read the books ; Mainly the four Gospels ( Matthew , Mark , Luke and John ) , You will frequently see Yashua , Isa , Jesus , Referring to the Laws of Old brought by Thutmose ( Moses ) .
 
Luke 24 ; 44 , Where It States ; But He Said To Them , These Are The Words Which I Spoke To You While I Was Yet With You , That All Things Must Be Fulfilled , Which Are Written In The Law Of Moses And In The Prophets , And In The Psalms , Concerning Me .  < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 4:03pm

Salaam and blessings,Caringheart  Post# 1, 2, explain the Laws The Prophet / Messiah Isa , Yashu'a , Jesus Christ himself follow and taught / teach .
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Also Read John 1 ; 17 , Where It States ; The Torah Was Given By Way Of Moses , But Grace And Facts Was Given By Way Of The Messiah Yashu'a ( The Anointed Saviour ) .  < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Also Read John 1 ; 45 , Where It States ; Philip Findeth Nathanael , And Saith Unto Him , We Have Found Him , Of Whom Moses In The Law , And The Prophet Did Write Jesus Of Nazareth The Son Of Joseph . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Also Read John 7 ; 23 , Where It States ; If A Human Being On The Sabbath Day Receive His Circumcision , That The Law Of Moses Should Not Be Loosened ; Are You Angry At Me , Because I Have Made A Human Being Completely Sound On The Sabbath Day ? < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
According to '' The American Heritage Dictionary '' The word '' Law '' Is defined as ; 1 . A rule of conduct or procedure established by Custom , Agreement , or Authority . 2 . A . The body of rules and principles governing the affairs of a Community and Enforced by a Political Authority .
 
The Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) word for Law is ( Shari'ah ) which means ; ''A Rule Established By Authority ; Society Or Custom . 2 . A Code Of Ethics Or Behavior '' . This word takes it's root from ; Shara'a < arabic > Meaning to Introduce , Enact , Prescribe , Give , Make Laws .
 
The Aramic / Hebrew word for Law is '' Towrah '' or Torah '' < aramic > These letters are The Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) word equivalent to Wariyya < arabic > which means '' A View '' . In Greek , The word for Law is ; '' Nomos '' .
 
As mentioned previously the word for Law Ashuric Syriac ( Arabic ) is '' Shari'ah '' < arabic > The word for Commandent is '' Wasiah '' < arabic > And means Direction , Instruction , Injuction, Order '' , Many times throughout the Scriptures you will see a distinction being made between a '' Law '' And a '' Commandment '' , Take a look at Ex odus 24 ; 12 , Where It States ; And ( Yahuwa ) said to ( Moses ) come up to me in to har the mountain , And be there ; And I will give you < Looakh > Tablets ' of < Ehben > Stone ' , And A ( Torah Law ) , And < Mitswaw > 'Commandments ' Which I have < Kawthab > 'Inscribed '; That you may < Yawraw > '' Teach them . < King Jame ( Hebrew - Greek ) Key Word Study Bible >
 
Where is the list for Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle
 follow / teach the above is according to the Bible not some website link .
Hopefully you get my point now


Edited by Al Saadiqeen21 - 19 January 2014 at 4:08pm
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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 8:18am
Paul did NOT follow the Law of Moses.
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 3:58pm
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37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Salaam and blessings,
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Can you give a list of Laws  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle   follow / teach .

Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

I answered that question above. Smile
As Salaamu Alaykum Caringheart
So you can't give a list ... ?

Greetings Al-,

This is the list:

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Salaam and blessings.


Edited by Caringheart - 20 January 2014 at 4:00pm
Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 5:29pm
As Salaamu Alaykum Caringheart
 so you can't back up your cliam here ok , So we are done here
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 11:26pm
Greetings Al-,

What claim?  You are confusing.  But I am guessing that is what you mean to be.

Peace to you,
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Let us seek Truth together
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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 21 January 2014 at 12:01am

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Greetings Al-,

What claim?  You are confusing.  But I am guessing that is what you mean to be.

Peace to you,
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As Salaamu Alaykum Caringheart I don't have time to play games forget it shall we .

 

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 30 January 2014 at 5:09pm
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Greetings Al-,

What claim?  You are confusing.  But I am guessing that is what you mean to be.

Peace to you,
Caringheart
 
 
It to be expect this knowldge is way over your head . The children -room over their . Clap
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