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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 18 January 2014 at 11:40am
Dear Al Sdqn

Firstly, Paul. a "self appointed Apostle"
Didn't Ananias say
Act 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Hardly self appointed.

Paul was filled with Holy Spirit the promise of Christ in
Jhn 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him

It is unfair that Muslims deny and mock the Holy Spirit

They ought to be saying, "I deny myself being filled with the Holy Spirit because of my unbelief"
I don't say this. I believed and received.

Thus the Quran is wrong; there really is a Holy Spirit given by Jesus.
And He is WONDERFUL!!!

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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 18 January 2014 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21

What Law's  did  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle Follow ???


Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

This question is easy to answer.  Paul followed the law of Moses(the Ten Commandments) as Yshwe(known as Jesus) commanded. 
Yshwe did not command to follow the laws of men, in fact He always spoke against the laws of men.
Here is what Yshwe had to say on the matter;

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 1:25am
Dear Caringheart

With all due respect, you are adrift here:

Firstly,the Mosaic Law was given by God;

Secondly, the Spirit of God wrote most of the New Testament through Paul;

Paul instructed men of the ineffectiveness of the Mosaic Law, and that men should accept and practise the teachings of Christ:     1Cr 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 7:18am
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Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21

What Law's  did  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle Follow ???


Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

This question is easy to answer.  Paul followed the law of Moses(the Ten Commandments) as Yshwe(known as Jesus) commanded. 
Yshwe did not command to follow the laws of men, in fact He always spoke against the laws of men.
Here is what Yshwe had to say on the matter;

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


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As Salaamu Alaykum Caringheart /  neil  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle  did not follow the laws of The Prophet  Moses . Anyway they're 613 commandments not Ten .
 
Can you give a list of Laws  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle   follow / teach .


Edited by Al Saadiqeen21 - 19 January 2014 at 7:23am
One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by neil

Dear Caringheart

With all due respect, you are adrift here:
Firstly,the Mosaic Law was given by God;
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Greetings neil,

Was it?  Are you sure?
Why did Yshwe so often have to speak against the pharisees?
Why did Yshwe have to teach that, 'it is not what goes into a man that makes him unclean', or, 'whether or not he washes his hands that makes him unclean'?

I think essentially you and I are saying the same thing:

"Paul instructed men of the ineffectiveness of the Mosaic Law, and that men should accept and practise the teachings of Christ:     1Cr 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."

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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21

Originally posted by Caringheart


Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

This question is easy to answer.  Paul followed the law of Moses(the Ten Commandments) as Yshwe(known as Jesus) commanded. 
Yshwe did not command to follow the laws of men, in fact He always spoke against the laws of men.
Here is what Yshwe had to say on the matter;

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Salaam and blessings,
Caringheart

Can you give a list of Laws  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle   follow / teach . [/QUOTE]

Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

I answered that question above. Smile

As for the rest...

The Torah is Judaism's most important text. It contains stories and commandments that teach us about life and death. It contains the 10 Commandments as well as the 613 mitzvot. All Jews consider the 10 Commandments to be the most important commandments in the Torah, though not all Jews adhere to the 613 mitzvot (one of the main differences between the different branches of Judaism).

it is important to note that Judaism does not have an official credo that all Jews must accept in order to be Jewish. Judaism is not a religion of absolutes.

http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/whatdojewsbelieve.htm

Salaam and blessings,

Caringheart



Edited by Caringheart - 19 January 2014 at 1:47pm
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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 2:07pm
there are 1050 commandments in the NT.

Which ones do Muslims say are invalid?

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by Al Saadiqeen21

Originally posted by Caringheart


Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

This question is easy to answer.  Paul followed the law of Moses(the Ten Commandments) as Yshwe(known as Jesus) commanded. 
Yshwe did not command to follow the laws of men, in fact He always spoke against the laws of men.
Here is what Yshwe had to say on the matter;

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Salaam and blessings,
Caringheart

Can you give a list of Laws  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle   follow / teach .


Greetings Al Saadiqeen21,

I answered that question above. Smile

As for the rest...

The Torah is Judaism's most important text. It contains stories and commandments that teach us about life and death. It contains the 10 Commandments as well as the 613 mitzvot. All Jews consider the 10 Commandments to be the most important commandments in the Torah, though not all Jews adhere to the 613 mitzvot (one of the main differences between the different branches of Judaism).

it is important to note that Judaism does not have an official credo that all Jews must accept in order to be Jewish. Judaism is not a religion of absolutes.

http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/whatdojewsbelieve.htm

Salaam and blessings,

Caringheart

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As Salaamu Alaykum Caringheart
So you can't give a list  Saul , Shaool , Paul the 13th Self - Appointed Apostle   follow / teach ? Keyword Saul , Shaool , Paul 13th Self - Appointed Apostle not some website link's .
One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

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