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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 15 January 2014 at 5:59am
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And I thought Muslims didn't accept the NT!

So why are you quoting Jesus?

Hasn't the Injeel - as you call it - been lost?

 
 
Who told you this ??? Muslims and Christian should read each other Scriptures , So they would have a better overstanding of their Holy Book .

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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 16 January 2014 at 1:37am
Can they both be holy if they disagree?

Can truth be black and white at the same time?

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Does Islam condone men having sex with animals?

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 17 January 2014 at 4:11am
This is for neil the christian Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 18 January 2014 at 11:16am
Dear Al Sdqn

I will gladly answer your question, if first you will answer mine:

Does Islaam condone humans having sex with animals?

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 7:29am
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Dear Al Sdqn

I will gladly answer your question, if first you will answer mine:

Does Islaam condone humans having sex with animals?

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Where in The Holy Qur'aan does say the above Chapter and Verse only . Don't give me no Hadiyth 's / Website / Media = that not back up with the holy Qur'aan . The answer to your question is NO !

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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 2:32pm
Dear Al Sdqn

The OT Bible speaks of great violence: wars, destructions by God as in Korah's Rebellion Numbers 16:1-50 NIV, plagues,etc

There is no evidence of any NT Christians do violence.

God bumped off Ananias ans Sapphira in the act of trying to bring lies in to the Church.

Many Christians were stoned like Stephen...

Fake christians? Now that's a different ball-game

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 7:08am
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Dear Al Sdqn

The OT Bible speaks of great violence: wars, destructions by God as in Korah's Rebellion Numbers 16:1-50 NIV, plagues,etc

There is no evidence of any NT Christians do violence.

God bumped off Ananias ans Sapphira in the act of trying to bring lies in to the Church.

Many Christians were stoned like Stephen...

Fake christians? Now that's a different ball-game

Neil
 
This is how its done according to the Scriptures
 
 
Jesus on Sexual Immorality , Adultery , and Child Abuse , Revelation 2 ; 20 - 23 , States And I Quote ; Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee , because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel which called herself a Prophetess To Teach  and to seduce my Servants  to commit fornication , and to eat things sacrificed unto idols . Verse 21 . And I gave her Space  to Repent of her fornication ; and she repented not . Verse 22 . Behold , I will cast her into a bed , and them that commit Adultery with her into great Tribulation ,  except they repent of their Deeds .
Verse 23 . And I will Kill Her Children With Death  ; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the Reins and Hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your Works .
 
( 1 ) . Capital Punishment Crimes ; - Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests . Deuteronomy 17 ; 12 ,  States And I Quote ; And the man that will do Presumptuously  and Will Not Hearken  unto the Priest that standeth to Minister  there before the Lord  thy God  or unto the judge , even that Man Shall Die ;  and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel .
 
Kill Witches ;-  Exodus 22 ; 18 , States And I Quote ; Thou Shalt  not Suffer Witch  to Live .
 
Kill Homosexuals ; -  Leviticus 20 ; 13 , States And I Quote ; If a man also Lie  with Man Kind
as he Lieth  with a Woman both of them have Committed  an Abomination  they shall surely be put to Death ; their blood shall be upon them .
 
Kill Fortunetellers ; -   Leviticus 20 ;27 ,  States And I Quote ; A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit , or that is a Wizard  , shall surely be Put To Death ; they shall Stone Them With Stones ;  their blood shall be upon them .
 
Death For Hitting Dad ; - Exidus 21 ; 15 , States And I Quote ;  And He That Smiteth his Father  or his Mother  shall be surely Put To Death .
 
( 1 ) . Death For Cursing Parents ; - Proverbs 20 ; 20 , States And I Quote ; Whoso Curseth  his Father  or his Mother  his Lamp  shall be put put in obscure Darkness .
( 2 ) .  Leviticus 20 ; 9,  States And I Quote ;  For every one that Curseth  his Father   or his Mother  shall be surely put to Death ; he hath Cursed  his Father  or his Mother  his Blood shall be upon him . [ They Are Guilty Of A Capital Offense ]
 
Death For Adultery ;- Leviticus 20 ; 10 ,  States And I Quote ; And the Man that Committeth Adultery  with another Man's Wife  even he that Committeth Adultery  with his Neighbor Wife  the Adulterer  and the  Adulterer  shall surely be put to Death .
 
Death For Fornication ; -  Leviticus 21 ; 9 ,  States And I Quote ;  And the Daughter  of any Priest  , if she Profance herself by Playing The Whore  she Profaneth Her Father  ; she Shall Be Burnt With Fire .
 
Death To Followers Of Other Religions ; - Exodus 22 ; 20 ,  States And I Quote ; He That Sacrificeth  unto Any God  save unto the Lord Only  , he Shall Be Utterly Destroyed .
 
Kill Nonbelievers ; -  2Chronicles 15 ; 12 - 13 , States And I Quote ;  And they entered into a Covenant  to seek the Lord God  of their Fathers  with all their heart and with all their soul . Verse 13 . That whosoever would Not Seek The Lord God Of Israel Should Be Put To Death whether small or great whether Man or Woman .
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Zechariah 13 ; 3 ,States And I Quote ; And it shall come to pass , that when Any  shall yet Prophesy  , then his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  shall say unto him , Thou Shalt  not Live  for thou Speakest Lies  in the Name  of the Lord ; and his Father  and his Mother  that Begat Him  Shall Thrust Him Through  when he Prophesieth .  
 
Kill The Entire Town If One Person Worships Another God ; -   Deuteronomy 13 ; 13 - 19 , States And I Quote ; Certain Men  the Children  of Belial  are gone out from among you , and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city , saying . Let us go and Serve Other Gods which ye have not known . Verse 14 . Then shalt thou inquire , and make search , and Ask Diligently and , behold , if it be Truth and the Thing certain , that such abomination Is Wrought Among  you . Verse 15 . Thou Shalt  surely Smite The Inhabitants Of That City  with the Edge Of The Sword Destroying It Utterly , and all that is therein , and the Cattle  thereof , with the Edge Of The Sword  . Verse 16 . And thou Shalt Gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof , and Shalt Burn With Fire The City ,  And all the spoil thereof every Whit  for the Lord Thy God ;  and it shall be an heap Forever it shall not be built again . Verse 17 . And there shall cleave Naught  of the Cursed Thing to thine hand ; that the Lord  may turn from the fierceness of his anger , and show thee mercy , and Have Compassion  upon thee , and multiply thee , as he Hath Sworn  unto thy fathers ; Verse 18 . When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the Lord Thy God , to keep all his commandments which I Command   thee this Day  to do that which is right in the eyes of the Lord Thy God .
 
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night ;-   Deuteronomy 22 ; 20 - 21 , States And I Quote ; But if this Thing  be True ,  and the tokens of Virginity  be not found for the Damsel . Verse 21 . They they shall bring out the Damsel  to the door of her Father's House ,  and the Men of Her City  shall Stone Her With Stones  that she Die  , Because she Hath Wrought  folly in Israel , to Play The Whore  in her father house ; so shalt thou evil way from among you .
 
Kill Followers Of Other Religions ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 7 - 12 ,States And I Quote ; Namely of the gods of the People  which are round about you night unto thee , or far off from thee , from the one end of the Earth even unto the other end of the earth . Verse 8 . Thou Shalt  not Consent  unto him , nor Hearken  unto him ; neither shall thine eye pity him , neither shalt thou spare , neither Shalt thou Conceal  . Verse 9 . But thou shalt surely kill him  thine Hand  shall be First upon him to Put Him To Death , and afterwards the hand of all the people . Verse 10 .
And thou shalt stone him with stones that he Die  , because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God , which brought thee out of the land of Egypt , from the house of bonfage . Verse 11 . And all Israel Shalt Hear  and fear , and shall do no more any such Wickedness as this is among you . Verse 12 . If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities which the Lord thy God  hath given thee to dwell there , saying .
 
( 2 ) . Deuteronomy 17 ; 2 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there be found Among  you within any of thy gates which the Lord thy God giveth thee , Man  or Woman that Hath Wrought Wickedness in the sight of the Lord thy God in Transgressing  his Covenant . Verse 3 . And haith gone and Served other gods and Worshiped them either the sun , or moon , or any of the Host of Heaven which I Have  not Commanded . Verse 4 . And it Betold thee , and thou Hast Heard of it , and inquired Diligently and behold , it be true , and the thing certain ; that such abomination is wrought in Israel , Verse 5 . Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman , which have committed that Wicked thing , unto thy gates , even that man or that woman , and shalt stone them with stones , till they Die .
 
Death For Blasphemy ;- Leviticus 24 ; 10 -16 , States And I Quote ; And the son of an Israelitish Woman whose father was an Egyptain , went out among the children of Israel and this son of the Israelitish woman and a man of Israel  strove together in the Camp . Verse 11 . And the  Israelitish woman's son Blasphemed the name of the Lord  and Cursed  . And they brought him unto Moses ; ( and his mother's name was Shelomith , the daughter of Dibri , of the Tribe of Dan ; ) . Verse  12 . And they put him in ward that the Mind of the Lord might be showed them . Verse 13 . And the Lord spake unto Moses saying . Verse 14 . Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp ; and let all that Heard  him lay their Hands upon his Head  and let all the Congregation stone him . Verse . 15 . And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel , saying , Whosoever  Curseth  his God Shalt Beat  his sin . Verse 16 . And he that Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , he shall surely be put to death , and all the congregation shall certainly stone him ; as well the Stranger  as he that is born in the land , when he Blasphemeth  the name of the Lord , Shall Be Put To Death .
 
Kill False Prophets ; -  Deuteronomy 13 ; 1 - 5 , States And I Quote ; If there arise Among you a Prophet  or a dreamer of dreams , and giveth thee a Sign   or a wonder , Verse 2 . And the sign or the wonder come to pass , whereof he Spake unto thee saying , Let us go after other gods which thou Hast  not Known  and let us Serve  them . Verse 3 . Thou Shalt  not Hearken  unto the Words  of that Prophet ,  or that dreamer of dreams ; for the Lord  your God Proveth you , to know whether ye Love  the Lord  your God  with all your Heart  and with all your Soul .
Verse 4 . Ye shall walk after the Lord  your God . and Fear  him and Keep  his commandments , and Obey his voice , and ye shall serve him , and cleave unto him . Verse 5 . And that Prophet  , or that dreamer of dreams , Shall Be Put To Death  because he Hath Spoken  to Turn  you Away from the Lord  your God which brought you out of the land of Egypt  , and Redeemed  you out of the House  of Bondage  to thrust thee out of the Way which the Lord  thy God Commanded thee to walk in . So shalt thou put the Evil  away from the midst of thee .
 
Deuteronomy 18 ; 20 - 22 , States And I Quote ; But the Prophet , which shall presume to speak a word in my name ,which I have not commanded him to speak , or that shall speak in the name of other gods  even that Prophet shall die . Verse 21 . And if thou Say  in thine heart , How Shall we Know the word which the Lord hath not spoken . Verse 22 . When a Prophet speaken in the name of the Lord , if the thing follow not , nor Come To Pass  , that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken , but the Prophet  hath spoken it Presumptuously thou Shall  not Be Afraid of him .
 
Their more where this come from
 
try reading your own Scripture before you point at others Holy Book

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Quote neil Replybullet Posted: 21 January 2014 at 12:32am
Dear Al Sdqn

You've missed the point.

I AGREE with you on the OT

The NT is a different matter.

It would be better if you could condense your reply down and make you point/s succinctly.

Is stoning adulterers, as still practised in Islam violence or retribution?

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