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Quote Mahdi The Seeke Replybullet Topic: Did Jesus lie or was it John?
    Posted: 30 November 2013 at 5:16pm
" Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father."

--John 14.12

Come on Christians, let's see a few miracles – walking on water, perhaps, or raising the dead?!

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Quote Webber Replybullet Posted: 21 December 2013 at 11:56pm
How about we rebuke a couple of your demons?
I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26
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Quote honeto Replybullet Posted: 26 December 2013 at 2:25pm
I am waiting!!
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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2014 at 1:32pm
The History Of John ( 2 - 99 A.D. ) ~ John , one if the first disciples of The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) was the son of Zebedee and the author of the fourth Gospel , called the Gospel of John . He had great spiritual insight  and was referred to as the the disciple and an apostle whomm The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) loved . The name John ( Yuwhanna ) , come from the Arabic , root word '' Hanna '' which means '' To Long For '' .
 
John son of Zebedee , was to receive the book about the '' Long Awaited '' Messiah , Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , and the last and Seal of The Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) ( 570 - 632 A.D. ) Prophet Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( Pbuh ) was called the Comforter ( Ahmad )  in the Book of John ( Refer to the Book of John 14 ; 16 , 25 , 26 ; 16 ; 7 )
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John son of Zebedee ( Zabadiy )  was a Fisherman in the town of Bethsaida on the north shore of the sea of Galilee . Thus , he spoke the Palestinian , Galilean , and Aramic ; form of Arabic not Greek or Latin . John mother was Salome , Saluwma -arabic ) who was given in marriage to  Zebedee by her father Joseph , Yuwsuf - arabic ( 90 B.C. - 29 A.D. ) This Joseph was the husband of Mary ( 6 B.C. - 90 A.D. ) The mother of  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) and the adopted father of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) Prior to marrying Mary .
 
Joseph was married to a woman name Halsa ( 35 B.C. - 28 A.D. ) Halsa bore him seven children Four Sons and Three Dauthers . These are their names . 1 . James ( Ya'quwb - arabic 22 B.C. - 62 A.D.  ) 2 . Simeon ( Sim'aan -arabic 17 B.C. - 46 A.D. ) , 3 . Jude ( Yahuwdaa - arabic 14 B.C. - 64 A.D.  ) , 4 . Joses ( Yuwsiy - arabic 19 B.C. - 57 A.D.  ) , 5 . Martha ( Martaa - arabic 13 - B.C. 39 A.D. ) , 6 . Esther ( Istiyr - arabic 15 - B.C. - 50 A.D. ) , 7 . Salome ( Saaluwma - arabic 16 B.C. - 50 A.D. ) .
 
Joses also called '' Barnabas '' was a faithful and devout disciple to The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) . He was also his half brother . He recorded The Book of Barnabas in the year 54 A.D. ( Acts 4 ; 35 , Matthew 13 ; 55 ) Beside John , Zebedee and Salome bore another son whose name was James ( Ya'quwb - arabic ) , James ( 2 B.C. - 46 A.D. ) also became a disciple of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) . They like their father , grew up to be fishermen by trade on the Sea of Galilee . John , son of Zebedee was a nephew of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , through his mother Salome . Salome was The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) . Half sister ( Mark 15 ; 40 ) .
 
Prior to becoming disciple of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , James and John were following of Yahya ( John the Baptist , 6 - 36 A.D. Pbuh ) who was their cousin . They were also amongst the first whom The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , united to follow him . Although it was not until later that they were called to permanent discipleship .
 
John was very close to The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) .This can he seen by his title '' The Disciple whom The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , Loved '' ( John 19 ; 26 , 21 ; 2 - 7 , 20 ; 2 , 21 ; 20 ) and by his positioning at the table darling the last supper next to The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , ( John 13 ; 23 - 25 ) . He was also entrusted with the care of Mary ( The Mother of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) . John , along with his brother James ( 22 B.C. - 62 A.D. ) . was also present at the transfigration of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , on the Mount of Olives
 
John lived until the age of 97 died a natural death . John and his brother James were called '' The Sons of Thunder '' because of the way they propagated the doctrine of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , Below are several references to both James and John ( sons of Salome and Zebedee ) . They both played a very importans role in the propagation of The Teaching of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , Refer To ; Matthew 4 ; 21 , 10 ; 2 - 3 ; 13 ; 55 , 17 ; 1 , Mark 1 ; 19 - 29 ; 3 ; 17 ; 5 ; 37 , 6 ; 3 , 9 ; 2 ; 10 ; 35 ; 10 ; 41 ; 13 ; 3 ; 14 ; 33 ; 15 ; 40 ; 16 ; 1 , Luke 5 ; 10 ; 8 ; 51 ; 9 ; 28, 54 ; 24 ; 10 .
 
The preceding Quotes substantiate the Close Relationship that The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , had with James and John . More than one John is mentioned in The New Tastament . There is also a John who was the son of Zacharias . He was known as Yahya ( John the Baptist ) . Yahya ( John the Baptist  Pbuh ) son of Zacharias; was born in 6 A.D. He was a cousin of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) and should not be confused with John , son of Zebedee . Yahya ( John the Baptist  Pbuh )  was of a priestly birth , from the family of Imram of the Tribe of Levi .
 
He was also the forerunner of The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , meaning that he prepared the people for his coming ( John 1 ; 26 - 27 ) . Yahya ( John the Baptist  Pbuh )  was also the reincarnation of The Prophet Elijah ( Pbuh ) who according to prophecy , was to come before the Messiah of Israel ( Refer to the Book of Luke 1 ; 13 , 17 ) .
 
The Book Of The Prophet Malachi  4 ; 5 ( Revealed 443 B.C.E. In Arabic Bible )
Behold I Will Send You Elijah The Prophet Before The Coming Of The Great And Dreadful Day Of The Sustainer ;
 
The Book Of Matthew 17 ; 10 - 13 ( Revealed 41 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
And His Disciples Asked Him , Saying , Why Then Say Jesus Answered And Said Unto Them . Elijah Truly Shall First Come , And Restore All Things But I Say Unto You , That Elijah Is Come Already , And They Knew Him Not . But Have Done Unto Him Whatsoever They Listed . Likewise Shall Also The Son Of Man Suffer Of Them . Then The Disciples Understood That He Spake Unto Them Of John The Baptist '' .
 
The Book Of Mark 9 ; 11 - 13 ( Revealed 65 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
And They Asked Him , Saying , Why Say The Scribes That Elijah Must First Come ? And He Answered And Told Them . Elijah Verily Cometh First , And Restoreth All Things , And How It Is Written Of The Son Of Man That He Must Suffer Many Things . And Be Set At Nought . But I Say Unto You . That Elijah Is Indeed Come . And They Have Done Unto Him Whatsoever They Listed . As It Is Written Of Him .
 
The Book Of Luke ( Revealed 58 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
And He Shall Go Before Him In The Spirit And Power Of Elijah . To Turn The Hearts Of The Fathers To The Children . And The Disobedient To The Wisdom Of The Just ; To Make Ready A People Prepared For The Sustainer . < Refer Also To Matthew 11 ; 7 - 15 >
 
However . Yahya ( John the Baptist , Pbuh ) was not aware that he was filled with the spitit of Elijah , he knew only that he had come to prepare the way for The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) .
 
The Book Of John By John ( Son Of Zebedee  1 ; 21 - 23 ( Revealed 98 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
So Then Asked Him Yahya ( John the Baptist ) Then Are You Iyliyaa ( Elijah ) So He Said '' No .I Am Not ( He Did Not Know That He Was Elijah  Returned ) '' Are You The Expected Prophet . ( Ahmad ) , And He Answered '' No ' I Am Not . So They Said To Him ; '' So Then Who Are You ? So We Can Give A Reply To Those ( Tribe Of Judah ) Who Sent Us As To What You Say About Yourself ; So He Said '' I Am A Voice Proclaiming In The Wilderness ( A Teacher From Outside Of The Town ) . Having The Straight Path Of The Sustainer ( Allah ) , As The Prophet Isaiah ( Shayaa ) Said .
 
 
Revealed at Ephesus ; Year 98 A.D.
 
By The Illustrious Name Of The Sustainer , The Generous Creator First Chapter  ( The Declaration Of Faith .
 
Verse 1 . In the very beginning was the Word ( La Ilaha Illa Allah , Nothing would exist if Allah didn't create it ) and the word was in the possession of Allah And the word was Allah Himself .
( Allahumma , Eloahim ) . < NT - Rev 19 ; 13 , HQ 3 ; 2 , 62 , 59 ; 22 - 24 ...
 
1 . In the ancient Hebrew , the word , used for the name of the Creator was ' Eloh '' , '' Ilah , Eloh , or '' El '' from the original Syretic Arabic '' Allah . There was also a plural form '' Eloahim -aramic - means ''  O Allah and all His Angelic Beings  and His Attributes . The '' Hum '' or is pluralized . therefore acknowledgeing the existence of all His Angelic Beings and Attributes . The '' Word '' Kalima is the physical representation of Allahumma . As you can see by the Arabic letter taa marbuta at the end of the word , Al Kalima , this word is in the feminine tense . If it were referring to a male in the masculine form . Nor is the word , Al Kalima , this word is in the feminine tense .
 
If it were referring to a male such as The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , it would be Al Kalim , in the masculine form . Nor is the word Al Kalima , describing Three Person In One . Or The Father ( Our Heavely Father ) , The Son ( Human Beings ) , Or The Holy Soul ( The Holy Ghost , Angelic Beings ) . The Holy Soul ( The Holy Ghost ) Is Not A Person Nor Is The Father A Person ,  and you wont find this Trinity anywhere in the Bible ; not even in 1John 5 ; 7
 
The Book 1John ( Son Of Zebedee ) 5 ; 7 ( Revealed 98 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven , The Father , The Word , And The Holy Ghost 
; And These Three Are One .
 
In the original manuscript of the original Aramic or Syretic Bible the words , The Father '' , The Word , and The Holy Soul ( The Holy Ghost ) and these three , they are one , Do Not Exist  . If you consult the Greek text or translation of the Bible which was translated from the original Syretic  Arabic , you will see that these words do not exist . However , if you had a copy of the Latin manuscript of the Bible and you could understand the language , you would see these words do exist . the Latin was translated from the Greek version , these added words appeared in the English version . So we don't get Three Person In One . Yet the other two of the three . The Angelic Being ( Holy Soul , The Holy Ghost ) And The Son ( Human Being ) Are In The Father .
 
They all are one in the sense that they all have part of Allah Most Glorified And Exalted essence . The Light , which is The Breath Of Life , '' The Father ''  is Allah . '' The Word '' is the Kalima or phystical presentation of Allahumma , ( Allah and His Angelic Beings and His Attibutes ) . '' The Holy Soul '' ( The Holy Ghost ) is the Angelic Being Gabriel ( Sra ) and '' The Son is the human being . who was created in Allah's likeness and having the breath of life , the essence of Allah within him .
 
Al Injiyl ( Evangel , Revelation ) 22 Books Of The Messiah Jesus 19 ; 13 ( Revealed 96 A.D. In Arabic Bible ) .
And On His Robe Was Blood Sprinkled He Is Represented The Messiah Sufferings And He Is Called By The Name '' Word Of Allah  ( The Messiah Is Called The Word Of Allah ) .
 
We cannot get the meaning of this word from the Greek ( Logos ) language because its translation was translated from Galilean and Syretic Arabic into Hebrew ; then from Hebrew into Greek , then into Latin . So you can't go to the Greek for its Original Meaning  you have to go to Hebrew and then back to the original Syretic Arabic . And in that language it is the name of a group of things or an object , not a person as The  Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) was The group is Eloahim - aramic - and the object is the word Kuwn - arabic - Exist , Be .
 
The Book Of 1John 1 - 1 - 2 By John ( Revealed 98 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
For This They Willingly Are Ignorant Of . That By The Word Of Allah The Heavens Were Of Old . And The Earth Standing Out Of The Water And In The Water ; Whereby The Word That Then Was . Being Overflowws With Water . Perished , But The Heavens And The Earth . Which Are Now . By The Same Word Are Kept In Store . Reserved Unto Fire Against The Day Of Judgement And Perdition Of Ungodly Men .
 
The Book Of James By James ( Brother Of Jesus 1 ; 17 - 18  ( Revealed 62 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
Every Good Gift And Every Perfect Gift Is From Above . And Cometh Down From The Father Of Lights . With Whom Is No Variableness . Neither Shadow Of Turning . Of His Own Will Begat He Us With The Word If Truth  , That We Should Be A Kind Of First Fruitd Of His Creatures .
 
The Book Of Hebrew By Paul 11 ; 3 ( Revealed 61 A.D. In Arabic Bible )
Through Faith We Understand That The Worlds Were Framed By The Word Of Allah  . So That Things Which Are Seen Were Not Made Of Things Which Do Appear .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 47 Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D. )
She ( Mary ) Said ; O Sustainer ( Allah ) , How Can This Be ! For Me A Mortal Son And I Was Not Touched Sexually By Any Mortal Being ( Human ) ? He ( The Angelic Being , Gabriel ) Said ; It Is As Allah ( Wills ) , He Creates What Pleases Him . When He Passes A Judgement , ( A Command  Surely All He ( Allah ) Says Of It Is Exist ! And It Will Exist ( The Word Exist ) .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 16 ; 40 Chapter Revealed 622 A.D.
Surely All We ( Allah And The Angelic Beings ) Have To Do When We Want To Bring Something To Existence . Is Say To It Exist ; And So It Comes Into Existence .
 
 Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 36 ; 82  Chapter Revealed 617 A.D.
His Command , When He Intendeth A Thing , Is Only That He Saith Unto It ; Exist And It Will Exist .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 40 ; 68  Chapter Revealed 618  A.D.
He It Is Who Quickeneth And Giveth Death . When He Ordaineth A Thing . He Saith Unto It Only
; Exist And It Will Exist .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 2 Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D.
Allah Is He Of Whom Nothing Would Exist Except By Way Of Him . The Living . Power Of All .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 59 ; 22 - 24 Chapter Revealed 626  A.D.
He Is Allah , Nothing Would Exist If Allah Didn't Create It ; He Is The Knower Of The Unseen . And The Witness . He Is The Beneficient Yielder , The Merciful . ( 23 ) . He Is Allah .  Nothing Would Exist If Allah Didn't Create It ; The King , The Holy , The Peace , The Faithful , The Protector . The Mighty . The Majestic , And The Repairer . Glory Be To Allah From What They Attribute As His Partners . ( 23 ) . He Allah Is The Creator . The Maker , The Fasioner . His Are The Most Excellent Of Names ; Whatever Is In The Galactic Heavens And The Plabet Earth Declares His Glory ; And He Is The Mighty , The Wise .
 
Verse 2 . This is how it was in the very beginning with Allah , < NT  Joh . 8 ; 58 , 17 ; 5 , 22 ; 13
, 5 , The Book Of 1 ; 1 >
 
2 . In the Beginning , Allah created the Kingdom of the Angelic Beings ; the Seraphim ( Good Angelic Beings ) , and Cherubim ( Bad Angelic Beings ) . They were all with Allah Most Glorified And Exalted in the begining .

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2014 at 1:33pm
As Suhuf ( The Book Of Life ) 10 Book Of The Prophet Adam 1 ; 1 - 4 ( In Arabic Revealed 3126 B.C.E )
It Is Related In The Records That Allah Most Glorified And Exalted, Thought Of Becoming And Became And He Created Three States ; Laahuwt ( The Realm Of Allah ) . Malakuwt ( The Realm Of Angelic Being . Naasuwt ( The Realm Of Human Being ) .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 11 In Part ( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D. )
For ( All Human Being ) There Are ( Angelic Beings ) Who Are In Their Midst ( On Earth With Them ) . And Who Succeed Him ( Angelic Being Were Before Man In Their Misst And Will Be After Them .
 
After the creation of the Angelic Beings ( Sra ) they became a part of the '' Eloahim '' or Allahumma , meaning Allah and His Angelic Beings and His Attributes .
 
Torah ( 5 Books Of Moses Genesis 3 ; 22 ( In Arabic Revealed 1512 B.C.E. )
And The Sustainer Allah Said , Behold . The Man Is Become  As One Of Us  To Know Good And Evil . And Now . Lest He Put Forth His Hand And Take Also Of The Tree Of Life , And Eat , And Live For Ever ''
 
The Eloahim or '' Allahumma '' has assisted Allah Most Glorified And Exalted, since the foundation of the world .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 49 ; 13 In Part ( Chapter Revealed 631 A.D. )
Oh You The People ! Surely We Allah And The Angelic Beings Created You All From A Male ( Adam ) And Female ( Hawwah ) .
 
Verse 3 . Everything came into existence by way of Him ( Allah ) and besides , by way of Him , nothing would exist , of all that exists . < OT Gen 1 ; 1 , 2 - 3 , AQ 2 ; 29 , 25 ; 2 >
 
3 . Him , by way of Him , not by way of them . Now it is speaking about only one entity. Allah Most Glorified And Exalted . It is Allah who created Angelic Beings ( Sra ) and Human Beings .
 
Torah ( 5 Books Of Moses Genesis 1 ; 1 ( In Arabic Revealed 1512 B.C.E. ) .
In The Beginning Allah Created The Heavens And The Earth .
 
Torah ( 5 Books Of Moses Genesis 2 ; 3  ( In Arabic Revealed 1512 B.C.E. )
And Allah Blessed The Seventh Day . And Sanctified It . Because That In It He Had Rested From All His Work Which Allah Created And Made .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 2 ; 29 ( Chapter Revealed 624 - 626 A.D. )
He ( Allah ) It Is Who Created And Gathered Together For You All What Is In The Planet Earth Then He ( Allah ) Turned His ( Allah ) Direction Towards The Heavenly Skies . He ( Allah ) Completed The Seven Heavens And He ( Allah ) Is The Best Knower Of All Things .
 
The Book Of The Psalms ( In Arabic -  Zubuwr Of David 104 ; 30 ( Revealed 1037 B.C.E )
Thou Sendest Forth Your Soul , They Are Created And Thou Renewest The Face Of The Planet Earth .
 
 
Everything in the Heavens and on the planet Earth came into existence by way of  Allah Most Glorified And Exalted . was assisted , by way of them , It Says By Way Of Him . So The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) Did Not Create Anything For Even He , Himself Was Created . The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh )  Was Result Of A Sexual Union Between A Physical Being , Mary And A Spiritual Being , The Angelic Being Gabriel ( Sra ) , Who Incarnated In The Form Of A Physical Being For His Conception . 
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 19 ; 17 - 19  ( Chapter Revealed 613 - 615  A.D. )
So She ( Maryam ) Took A Covering To Screen Herself Away From Them ( The Angelic Being , Michael , Gabriel And Uriel ) ; So We ( Allah And Al Khidr Sent Her ( Mary ) Our Soul ( The Angelic Being Gabriel ) So He ( The Angelic Being Gabriel ) Took The Likeness For Her ( Maryam ) Of A Perfect Human Being . ( 18 ) . She ( Maryam Said ; Surely I Seek Protection From You ( Gabriel , In The Form Of A Man ) With The Yielder ( Allah ) , If You Are Trembling At The Mention Of Him . ( 19 ) . He ( Gabriel ) In The Form Of A Man Said ; I Am Only One Sent ( An Apostle ) By Your ( Maryam's ) Sustainer ( Allah ) To Give To You ( Maryam ) A Pious Lad ( The Messiah Jesus ) .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 45 ( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627  A.D. ) So When The Angelic Beings ( Michael , Gabriel , Raphael ) Said ; '' O Mary . Surely Allah Gives You Glad Tidings Of His Word ( Jesus Was Also Born By The Word Of Allah ) . Whose Name Is The Anointed One . ( The Messiah ) , Jesus Son Of Mary , Illustrious In The Physical ( Being Flesh ) World And At The End ; The Spiritual ( Being A Spirit ) To Come And He Shall Be Of The Beings ( Angelic Beings ) Who Are Near To Allah ( Jesus Is Half Angel ) .
 

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The Book Of Luke 3 ; 22 ( In Arabic Revealed  58 A.D. )
And The Holy Ghost Descended In A Bodily Shape Like A Dove Upon Him . And A Voice Came From Heaven , Which Said . Thou Art My Beloved Son ; In Thee I Am Well Pleased .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 62( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627  A.D. )
Verily This Is A Factual Narrative ( Jesus Is Not Allah ) And You Will Not Find Any Creator Except Allah , Surely Allah , He Is The Mighty , The Wise .
 
Book Of John ( Son Of Zebedee ) 8 ; 58 In Arabic Revealed 98 A.D. )
Isa ( Jesus ) Said ; Facts Are Facts , Which Is All I Say To You . Before Ibraahiym ( Abraham ) Existed I Was ( As An Angelic Being ) .
 
Christians have used this quote to support their argument that this is proof that The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) must be The Creator . They do not realize or understand that he is only speaking of the fact that because His Father , The Holy Soul ( The Holy Ghost , The Angelic Being Gabriel , Sra ) was inside of him , and the Angelic Being Gabriel , Sra , was created by Allah Most Gloried And Exalted  In The Beginning ' When All The Angelic Beings Were Brought Into Existence . Then Therefore He Too Existed Before The Creation Of The World .
 
Book Of John ( Son Of Zebedee 17 ; 5 In Arabic Revealed 98 A.D.
And Now Glorify Me . O Father , With That Same Glory Which Was Mine When I Was With You ( As The Angelic Being , Gabriel ) Before The Existence Of The World .
 
Verse 4 . In Him ( Allah ) was the life ( breath of life ) and  the life ( breath of life ) was the Light of the people ( the soul of each person ) . < OT Gen 2 ; 7 , Isa 2 ; 22 , Eze 37 ; 5 , Job 27 ; 3 , Ps 104 ; 30 , AQ 2 ; 28 , 19 ; 9 >
 
4 . Again we have in him ( Singular Form ) and not in them ( Plural Form ) . This is speaking of Allah Most Glorified And Exalted , The Heavenly Father Only .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 112 ; 1 - 3 ( Chapter Revealed 616 A.D. ) .
O Seal Of All The Prophets Of Allah ( Muhammad ) By The Supreme Sovereignity Of Your Sustainer And Creator ( Allah ) , Who Is The Sustainer Of All Things , I Command You ( Muhammad ) To Say He ( Of All The Scriptures Is Allah ) Is In Need Of Nothing , For He Has No Deficences ; But Everything Is In Need Of Him ; He Is The Provider And Sustainer Of All Things Big And Small . Neither Mother  Nor Father Has He ( Allah )  And He Was Not Conceived By The Union Of Any Two . Nor Did He Conceive An ( Individual Son ) .
 
The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) was not The Father , Nor Was He And The Father ' One '' As Christians Would Like For You To Believe . They Use These First Four ( 4 ) Verses Of The Gospel Of John To Justify Making The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) And The Sustainer One Entity . The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) Was Sent By The Heavenly Father As All The Prophets And Apostles ( Ones Sent , Pbut ) Came From Allah As Well . If You Read Further On In This Chapter To Verse 18 . You Will See The ( Separation )
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The Book If John ( Son Of Zebedee ) 1 ; 18 ( In Arabic Revealed  98 A.D. )
Allah , No One Has Ever Seen Him ( In A Physical Form As A Man ) The Only Adopted Son ( Al Masih Isa The Messiah Jesus ) Is He Who Is In The Father's  Emerace ( Accepted ) Jesus As A Human Being , A Son Of Allah Was That Part Of The Word Of Eloahim In Flesh As A Symbol Of All Human Beings In His Day And Time . He ( Jesus ) Is Informed ( He Knew More About Allah Than Any Man In His Time . He Was A Supreme Being ; Not The Supreme Who Is Our Father. Allah . ( 18 )
 
And If You Go To John 14 ; 6 , You Will See The Messiah Jesus ( Pbuh ) Trying To Make This Concept Clear Again .
 
The Book If John ( Son Of Zebedee ) 14 ; 6 ( In Arabic Revealed  98 A.D. )
 Isa ( Jesus ) Said To Him ; I Path And The Facts And The Life ; No One Will Come To The Father Except By Way Of Me ;
 
If Christians say that The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) is '' God '' then why don't they call the Prophet Adam ( Pbuh ) '' God '' also ; since the The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) creation was likened unto the creation of the Prophet Adam ( Pbuh ) .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 59  ( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D. ) .
Surely Jesus Is Like Adam To Allah . He ( Allah ) Created Him ( Adam ) From The Mud Of The Earth . Then He ( Allah ) Said Of Him ( Adam ) ; '' Exist . And He Existed . ( 59 ) .
 
The likeness of their creation is that an Angelic Being ( Sra ) came down from the Heavens to take part in the creation of the Prophet Adam ( Pbuh ) .
 
As Suhuf ( The Book Of Life ) 10 Book Of The Prophet Adam 3 ; 156  ( In Arabic Revealed 3126 B.C.E )
Allah Most Glorified And Exalted , Commanded The Angelic Being Gabriel ( Peace Be Upon You And The Mercy Of Allah ) To Form The Body Of Adam . The Son Of Allah .
 
As Suhuf ( The Book Of Life ) 10 Book Of The Prophet Adam 3 ; 183 -190  ( In Arabic Revealed 3126 B.C.E )
The Almighty Sent The Angelic Being Izraa'iyl ( Peace Be Upon You And The Mercy Of Allah ) On The Same Errand . ( 184 ) The Earth Again Implored Allah Most Glorifiied And Exalted And Began To Lament And Cry . ( 185 ) . The Angelic Being Izraa'iyl  ( Peace Be Upon You And The Mercy Of Allah ) Said ( 186 ) . It Is More Incumbeent Upon Me To Obey The Nourisher Than To Take Pity On Thee ( 187 ) . According , He Collected A Handful Of Black Mud ( 188 ) . Comprised Of Different Colors And Properties From The Surface Of The Earth . ( 189  ) . And Having Mixed All Part Together , ( 190 ) . Formed A Black Olive Colore .
 
Just as an Angelic Being ( Sra ) come down to take part in the procreation of The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) , the Holy Soul ( the Holy Ghost , Angelic Being Gabriel ( Sra ) Personified as a man to Mary for his conception ...
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 59  ( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D. ) .
He ( Gabriel ) In The Form Of A Man ;  I Am Only One Sent ( An Apostle ) By Your ( Maryam's ) Sustainer ( Allah ) To Give To You ( Maryam ) A Pious Lad ( The Messiah Jesus ) . She Said ; How Shall There Exist For Me A Lad And I Have Not Been Touched By A Human Being , Nor Have I Been Unchaste ? He Said Just Like That ; Your Sustainer Has Said It Is Easy For Me And For Us ( Allah And The Heavenly Host ) To Make Him A Sign For The People And A Mercy For Us . And It Was A Master Already Decided .
 

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Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2014 at 1:37pm
... Making The Messiah Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus ( Pbuh ) Part Man and Part Angelic Being so that he would be able to understand the nature of Both Man and Angelic Being . But he was Never Allah Most Glorifiied And Exalted .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 3 ; 59  ( Chapter Revealed 625 - 627 A.D. )
To Him ( Allah ) Belongs The Kingdom Of The Galactic Heavens And The Planet Earth And He ( Allah ) Has Not Taken A Paternal Son ( Any One Son ) And There Doesn't Exist For Him Any Partner ( Wife ) In The Kingdom . And He ( Allah ) It Is Who Created And Measured Everything With An Accurate Measurement .
 
Allah Most Glorifiied And Exalted is the '' Light '' , The Breath of '' Life '' in every man .
 
Torah ( 5 Books Of Mose Genesis 2 ; 7 ( In Arabic Revealed 1512 B.C.E. )
And The Sustainer Allah Formed Adam Of The Dust Of The Planet Earth . And Blew Into His ( Adam's ) Nostrils The Breath Of Life ; So Adam Became A Living Spirit .
 
The Book Of The Prophet Job 27 ; 3 ( In Arabic Revealed 1473 B.C.E. )
'' All The While My Breath Is In Me . And The Breath Of Allah Is In My Nostrils .
 
The Book Of The Prophet Isaiah 2 ; 22 ( In Arabic Revealed 723 B.C.E. )
Cease Ye From Human Beings , Whose Breathy Is In His Nostrils ; For Wherein Is He To Be Accounted Of .
 
And The Breath Of Life Is The Soul Of Man .
 
The Book Of The Prophet Ezekiel 37 ; 5 ( In Arabic Revealed 59 B.C.E. )
Thus Said The Sustainer Allah Unto These Bones Behold I Will Cause Breath To Enter Into You All . So You Will Be Living Souls .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 2 ; 28   ( Chapter Revealed 624 - 626  A.D. )
How Can Any Of You Conceal What You All Know To Be True  About Allah And You All Where Lifeless And He ( Allah ) Made You All Live ? The He ( Allah ) Caused You All To Be Lifeless Again . Then He ( Allah ) Made You All Live Again , Then Unto Him ( Allah You All Will Finally Return .
 
Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( Muhammad ) 19 ; 9   ( Chapter Revealed 613 - 615 A.D. )
He ( Angelic Being , Gabriel ) Said ; Thus , That Your ( Zacharias ) Sustainer ( Allah ) Just Has To Say It . And It Is Easy For Me ( Allah ) . And Indeed I Created You ( Zacharias ) Before And You ( Zacharias ) Were Not Anything .
 
Verse 5 . And the light ( breath of life , soul ) . shines in the spiritual darkness (the empty ) body . the shell ) and the spiritual darkness  ( meaning human being didn't even perceive him ( men don't understand the Creator in them ) . < OT ;  Ps 18 ; 28 , 119 ; 130 , Isa 29 ; 18 , AQ 24 ; 35 , 6 ; 103 ,
 
5 . Of  the first things that Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted created was the Light .
 
Torah ( 5 Books Of Moses In Arabic ) Genesis 1 ; 3 - 4 ( Revealed 15 12 B.C.E. )
And Allah Said , Let There Be Light ; And There Was Light , And Allah Saw The Light , That It Was Good And Allah Divided The Light From The Darkness .
 
From this Light , Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted  created two other lights ; the great Light , An Nuwr - arabic - from which came the Seraphim / Saraafiym - arabic - '' Agreeable  Angelic Beings ' and the lesser Light , An Naar  - Arabic - from which came the Cherubim / Karaabiym - arabic - Disagreeable Angelic Beings . Thus The Angelic Being Gabriel ( Sra ) is the Holy Soul ( The Holy Ghost ) because he possessed the Light Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted  .
 
The Messiah Jesus ( Pbuh ) was one with Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted  insomuch that he ro possessed the Light of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted  as all men do . He was not the Light himself but he became the Light of the world because he came into this world possessing the Light of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted .
 
The Book Of John ( Son Of Zebedee 8 ; 12 In Arabic Revealed 98 A.D. )
Then Isa ( Jesus ) Spoke To Them Again Saying ; '' I Am The Light Of The World And Whoever Follows Me Will Have The Light Of Life And Will Never Walk In Darkness .
 
The Light of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted is the manifestation of His essence , Adh Dhaat - arabic - . Adh Dhaat are the things which are feminine ; that have existed from eternity , and it is possessed by Adh Dhuw - arabic - which is masuline . Adh Dhuw - arabic - is Huwa - arabic - the sacred name of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted and is the presentation of the soul . Finally the soul ( The Emotional Body ) , is the Light of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted and the Light is the breath of life within every living thing . 
 
Instead of saying that the Light of  Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted exists within the three , they say all three ( Father Son And Holy Ghost ) are the Creator . The Trinity is actually the presence of the Light of Allah Most Ghorified And Exalted in the concept of the Father , The Son ,  and The Holy Soul  (The Holy Ghost ) .  There is a Trinity but it is not Three Into One  as  Christians see it .
 

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Quote Placid Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2014 at 1:31pm
Hi Mahdi,

Quote: " Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father."
--John 14.12

Response: --- I am sorry I haven’t answered this earlier but you got a pretty good autobiography of John in the meantime, did you not?
I have to wonder if you read anything else in the Scriptures to see if this was really fulfilled.
--- The Holy Spirit was given to the Apostles and others on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2, and it was following this event that the Apostles started performing the same miracles. --- They were no greater in quality, but they were greater in quantity. --- Jesus was in one place at one time, but the Apostles were in different places so the miracles and healings were multiplied.

Notice on that first day, it says this in Acts 2:
(Peter stood up and preached to the multitude who were there for the Feast of Pentecost from verse 14-39),
40 And with many other words he (Peter) testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”
41 Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them.
42 And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43 Then fear came upon every soul, AND MANY WONDERS AND SIGNS WERE DONE THROUGH THE APOSTLES.

Acts 3:1 Now Peter and John went up together to the temple at the hour of prayer, the ninth hour.
2 And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms from those who entered the temple;
3 who, seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple, asked for alms.
4 And fixing his eyes on him, with John, Peter said, “Look at us.”
5 So he gave them his attention, expecting to receive something from them.
6 Then Peter said, “Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.”
7 And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
8 So he, leaping up, stood and walked and entered the temple with them—walking, leaping, and praising God.

Acts 5:12 And through the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were done among the people. And they were all with one accord in Solomon’s Porch.
14 And believers were increasingly added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women,
15 so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them.
16 Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

--- (Notice this, Because they had the Power of the Holy Spirit within, they were healing people in remarkable ways. THESE ARE THE GREATER WORKD THAT JESUS PROMISED WOULD BE DONE.)

Acts 6:7 Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, AND A GREAT MANY OF THE PRIESTS WERE OBEDIENT TO THE FAITH.
Acts 8:4 Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word.
5 Then Philip (the Deacon) went down to the city of Samaria and preached Christ to them.
6 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed.
8 And there was great joy in that city.

--- You see, these miracles were done after the Holy Spirit was given to them --- and there are many more miracles to follow. --- However, I think you were wondering if these miracles still happen in Churches today. --- The answer is, “Yes they do.” Most of these miracles are not talked about because there are many unbelievers that scoff at Signs and Miracles.
--- There are some Evangelists with ‘Healing Ministries’ on Television, so I guess you will have to look for some. --- Like ‘Peter Younger,’ --- ‘The Hour of Power’ with Richard Roberts from Tulsa Oklahoma. --- You might find ‘Rodney Brown’ in different places, --- and there are others.
(I want to say that I don’t watch these programs myself, very often, --- But I know their ministries.)      
--- You will likely ridicule this as others do, --- but it is after you are confronted with something you can’t understand that you start asking God if these things are true.

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