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Posted: 25 October 2005 at 11:50pm

Originally posted by Freebird

You can forget the frequencies of the words as they need program to find them, not this method--beside there are few that match.

If you notice Chapeter 36 and chapter 50 don't have names. Ya-seen are the 2 letters located at verse one, and the name Qof is derived from the letter Qof at verse one also. These two are nameless chapters. But there are two other chapters which also don't have names, they are chapter 20 called To-Ha and chapter 38 called Sod.
So the nameless chapters are 20,36,38 and 50. When we add them the result is divisible by 9.
20+36+38+50=144.

Also the verse numbers for that chapters when add them together the result also divisible by 9.
135+83+88+45=351.

I wrote this off the memory so please check it maybe I made a mistake.

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Posted: 26 October 2005 at 4:10am

Chapter 9:39

Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things.

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Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:06am

Originally posted by Freebird

These are the names other than the Prophets that are mentioned in the Qur'an. The good are 7 of them, the bad are also 7--unless If you think I missed a name or two as we do make mistakes, than please let me know, otherwise it is good, 7 and 7.
Also if say, you believe that Dhul Qornain was a messenger than that will be different story.

I hope my contributions will trigger your interest with the Qur'an.

1. Dhul Qornain
2. Imron
3. Luqman
4. Maryam
5. Tolut
6. Uzair
7. Zayd

1. Abu lahab
2. Azar
3. Fir,aun
4. Haman
5. Jaalut
6. Qorun
7. Samiri

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Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:13am

Surah 15, Verse 33:For no statement do they bring you but We reveal the Truth to thee and the best explanation.

In the Qur'an, 'they said' in arabic is 'qaalu'.Arabic word gor 'Say' is 'qul'.Both qaalu and qul occur 332 times.

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Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:54am

Originally posted by Freebird

Within 29 chapters that begin with mysterious letters - there are three that begin with a single letter. They are chapter 38, 50 and 68.
I have counted the letter Nun in chapter 68 manually with my hand about 4 times and chapter 38 twice. Chapter 50 I use the program.

Chapter 38 has 29 Sod
Chapter 50 has 57 Qof
Chapter 68 has 131 Nun

Total = 217--217/7 = 31

If we put the chapters and their verses together total 341--341/11=31.

There are 4 numbers that I used for this, they are no: 7, 9, 11 and 19.

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Posted: 01 November 2005 at 8:30am

Originally posted by Deus

Ref: http://www.submission.org/miracle/endless.html

Many of you might've heard of this or seen it before. Quranic miracles that deal with numbers, for example, ratio of word "Land" to "Sea" gives you the 71%:29% (actual ratio of land:sea on Earth).

Has anyone here actually confirmed this? I've seen this claimed on more than one website, but they never give guidelines on how to actually confirm them numbers for ourselves.

This site was made by the followers of "rashad khalifa "

Rashad Khalifa may claim to be a muslim, but the claims he makes and the beliefs that he holds are unislamic and in fact they are the basis of Kufr (disbelief). A mere glance at his website would reveal this.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/Sects/Sects_Main.h tm
Check out the following sites:
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=13357

http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/Sects/Submitters/T rick.htm

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Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:14pm

anyone knows about Rashad khalifa

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Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:56pm

True that Rashad Khalifa is a bit controversial and I don't subscribe to all his ideas, but this is something that you and I can confirm ourselves. I've already confirmed some of those "number miracles" (the ones that don't require calculations) myself so it's not something that Rashad Khalifa is making up.

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Dayem Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 520	Posted: 25 October 2005 at 11:50pm
	*Originally posted by Freebird* You can forget the frequencies of the words as they need program to find them, not this method--beside there are few that match. If you notice Chapeter 36 and chapter 50 don't have names. Ya-seen are the 2 letters located at verse one, and the name Qof is derived from the letter Qof at verse one also. These two are nameless chapters. But there are two other chapters which also don't have names, they are chapter 20 called To-Ha and chapter 38 called Sod. So the nameless chapters are 20,36,38 and 50. When we add them the result is divisible by 9. 20+36+38+50=144. Also the verse numbers for that chapters when add them together the result also divisible by 9. 135+83+88+45=351. I wrote this off the memory so please check it maybe I made a mistake.
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	Chapter 9:39 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things.
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Dayem Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 520	Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:06am
	*Originally posted by Freebird* These are the names other than the Prophets that are mentioned in the Qur'an. The good are 7 of them, the bad are also 7--unless If you think I missed a name or two as we do make mistakes, than please let me know, otherwise it is good, 7 and 7. Also if say, you believe that Dhul Qornain was a messenger than that will be different story. I hope my contributions will trigger your interest with the Qur'an. 1. Dhul Qornain 2. Imron 3. Luqman 4. Maryam 5. Tolut 6. Uzair 7. Zayd 1. Abu lahab 2. Azar 3. Fir,aun 4. Haman 5. Jaalut 6. Qorun 7. Samiri
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Dayem Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 520	Posted: 27 October 2005 at 3:13am
	Surah 15, Verse 33:For no statement do they bring you but We reveal the Truth to thee and the best explanation. In the Qur'an, 'they said' in arabic is 'qaalu'.Arabic word gor 'Say' is 'qul'.Both qaalu and qul occur 332 times.
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Dayem Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 520	Posted: 01 November 2005 at 12:54am
	*Originally posted by Freebird* Within 29 chapters that begin with mysterious letters - there are three that begin with a single letter. They are chapter 38, 50 and 68. I have counted the letter Nun in chapter 68 manually with my hand about 4 times and chapter 38 twice. Chapter 50 I use the program. Chapter 38 has 29 Sod Chapter 50 has 57 Qof Chapter 68 has 131 Nun Total = 217--217/7 = 31 If we put the chapters and their verses together total 341--341/11=31. There are 4 numbers that I used for this, they are no: 7, 9, 11 and 19.
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ak_m_f Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3274	Posted: 01 November 2005 at 8:30am
	*Originally posted by Deus* Ref: http://www.submission.org/miracle/endless.html Many of you might've heard of this or seen it before. Quranic miracles that deal with numbers, for example, ratio of word "Land" to "Sea" gives you the 71%:29% (actual ratio of land:sea on Earth). Has anyone here actually confirmed this? I've seen this claimed on more than one website, but they never give guidelines on how to actually confirm them numbers for ourselves. This site was made by the followers of "rashad khalifa " Rashad Khalifa may claim to be a muslim, but the claims he makes and the beliefs that he holds are unislamic and in fact they are the basis of Kufr (disbelief). A mere glance at his website would reveal this. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/Sects/Sects_Main.h tm Check out the following sites: http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=13357 http://www.islamic-paths.org/Home/English/Sects/Submitters/T rick.htm Edited by ak_m_f
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ak_m_f Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 3274	Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:14pm
	anyone knows about Rashad khalifa
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Deus Senior Member Joined: 13 July 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 134	Posted: 01 November 2005 at 6:56pm
	True that Rashad Khalifa is a bit controversial and I don't subscribe to all his ideas, but this is something that you and I can confirm ourselves. I've already confirmed some of those "number miracles" (the ones that don't require calculations) myself so it's not something that Rashad Khalifa is making up.
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