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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Topic: Bukhari hadiths #431 and #30
    Posted: 08 August 2013 at 9:22pm
Assalamu Alaikum,

I have been reading a bit through Muhammad's teachings as recorded in the Sahih Bukhari hadiths, and came across two that I see as contradictory. I am wondering how Muslims would explain this.

(7) Narrated 'Utban bin Malik Al-Ansari: who was one of the men of the tribe of Bani Salim: Allah's Apostle came to me and said, "If anybody comes on the Day of Resurrection who has said: La ilaha illal-lah, sincerely, with the intention to win Allah's Pleasure, Allah will make the hell-Fire forbidden for him." (Book #76, Hadith #431)

http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=hell+forbidden&translato...


(1) Narrated Al-Ahnaf bin Qais: While I was going to help this man ('Ali Ibn Abi Talib), Abu Bakra met me and asked, "Where are you going?" I replied, "I am going to help that person." He said, "Go back for I have heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'When two muslims fight (meet) each other with their swords, both the murderer as well as the murdered will go to the Hell-fire.' I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! It is all right for the murderer but what about the murdered one?' Allah's Apostle replied, "He surely had the intention to kill his companion." (Book #2, Hadith #30)

http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=muslim+fight&translator=...

Muhammad stated that all who say " La ilaha illal-lah", or, "there is no god but God", sincerely, will have hellfire denied to them. Of course, saying " La ilaha illal-lah" is part of the shahadah, "La ilaha illal-lah Muhammadur  rasul Allah", or "There is no god but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God".
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/shahadah.asp

One cannot become a Muslim without saying it, and it must be said sincerely, otherwise it does not count. Muhammad stated that God will forbid the hell-fire for those who say the shahada. Since every Muslim has said the shahada, this would mean that God will deny hellfire for every Muslim.

Yet, Muhammad also said that when 2 Muslims fight with swords, both the killer and the killed will go to hell.

So on one hand, Muhammad said that those who say the shahada sincerely (every Muslim) will have hell-fire denied to him or her... yet on the other, he said that there will be Muslims who will go to hell.

I see a clear contradiction here.

Contradicting oneself is a purely human thing. I've done it, I'm sure everyone has at some point.

Yet if Muhammad was getting his information about hell from God, then it couldn't be contradictory since God does not contradict Himself. If he was getting it from some other source, than clearly he was not God's prophet, and was talking about Him and the afterlife without consulting Him.

I believe Muhammad did many good and honourable things. He opposed infant sacrifices. He showed mercy to his enemies at times. He spoke out against polytheism and atheism.

But he was not a prophet of God. Examples like the one above, as well as mistakes in the Quran, show us that Islam is not from God.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Quote islamispeace Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2013 at 12:20pm
There is no contradiction here.  Two Muslims who try to kill each other have become apostates.  Apostates do not go to Paradise, even if they previously stated the Shahadah with sincerity.  The reason is simple.  The act of apostasy negates everything that was done previously, unless before their deaths, they sincerely repented (in which case, it is left to Allah to decide their fate).  In the same way, becoming a Muslim and stating the Shahadah negates everything that one may have done beforehand. 

So, when Muslims kill each other, they are no longer Muslims but unbelievers.  There is no contradiction.

If we use your logic, then the Bible contradicts itself on this issue as well.  According to Paul:

"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved." (Roman 10:9-10)

But, in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus (pbuh) is alleged to have said:

"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" (Matthew 7:22-23)

Whereas Paul claimed that anyone who sincerely believes that Jesus is "God" and rose from the dead will be saved, Matthew quotes Jesus himself as saying that there will be some people who will come to him on the Day of Judgment thinking they were believers, but who will be rejected by him due to some obvious flaw in their faith.

Is this a contradiction?  Or, does it mean that just because someone sincerely believed at one point but then at a later point became an apostate or a hypocrite,  does not mean that he will be saved?  Does the act of disbelief negate a previous act of belief and vice-versa? 

I think this is not a contradiction.  There are many examples where the Bible contradicts itself, but this is not one of them.  The moral is that even if you believe sincerely at one point, that does not guarantee that you will be saved even if you did something later which makes you a hypocrite or unbeliever.  The same moral is seen in the two hadiths above.
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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Posted: 09 August 2013 at 3:28pm
Assalamu Alaikum, islamispeace.

It is great to hear from you again. Smile

Originally posted by islamispeace

There is no contradiction here.  Two Muslims who try to kill each other have become apostates.  Apostates do not go to Paradise, even if they previously stated the Shahadah with sincerity.  The reason is simple.  The act of apostasy negates everything that was done previously, unless before their deaths, they sincerely repented (in which case, it is left to Allah to decide their fate).  In the same way, becoming a Muslim and stating the Shahadah negates everything that one may have done beforehand. 

So, when Muslims kill each other, they are no longer Muslims but unbelievers.  There is no contradiction.

Thank you for the response. Can you please show me proof from the Quran or hadiths that killing another Muslim makes one an apostate?

4:93 states that whoever kills a believer (fellow Muslim) intentionally, will enter hell and abide there forever.

But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.


However, I am not aware of evidence that killing another Muslim is actually an act of disbelief, even if it warrants eternal punishment. I read on IslamQA what would qualify as apostasy from Islam, and killing fellow Muslims is not one of them.

Apostasy (riddah) and going out of Islam are things that may be done in the heart, on the tongue or in one's actions. 

Apostasy may take place in the heart, such as disbelieving in Allaah, or believing that there is another creator alongside Allaah, or hating Allaah or His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). 

Apostasy may take the form of words spoken on the tongue, such as defaming Allaah or the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). 

Or apostasy may take the form of outward physical actions, such as prostrating to an idol, mistreating the Mus-haf, or not praying. 

http://www.islamqa.info/en/14231

However, I found a hadith in Bukhari, in which Muhammad said that killing a fellow Muslim is an act of kufr, and I know that Islam teaches that whoever dies in a state of unbelief, goes to hell for eternity. Christianity teaches the same thing, it is one of the things Muslims and Christians agree on.


(4) Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "Abusing a muslim is Fusuq (an evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." Narrated 'Ubada bin As-Samit: "Allah's Apostle went out to inform the people about the (date of the) night of decree (Al-Qadr) but there happened a quarrel between two muslim men. The Prophet said, "I came out to inform you about (the date of) the night of Al-Qadr, but as so and so and so and so quarrelled, its knowledge was taken away (I forgot it) and maybe it was better for you. Now look for it in the 7th, the 9th and the 5th (of the last 10 nights of the month of Ramadan)."  (Book #2, Hadith #46)

http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=kill+muslim&translator=1&search=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all

Hadith #46 of Bukhari's collection would not contradict #431, however, what about #532? It discusses very clearly the fate of Muslims who were disobedient. It states that some of them will be thrown in hell, and depending on how little faith and good works they did, their bodies will be burnt in varying intensity. However, everyone of these Muslims had said "there is no god but God" sincerely (otherwise they couldn't have became Muslims), and they died believers. According to Muhammad, those who said "there is no god but God" sincerely would have Hellfire denied to them. Yet God will allegedly throw those of them who were disobedient into Hell for a while.

(2) Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: We said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He said, "Do you have any difficulty in seeing the sun and the moon when the sky is clear?" We said, "No." He said, "So you will have no difficulty in seeing your Lord on that Day as you have no difficulty in seeing the sun and the moon (in a clear sky)." The Prophet then said, "Somebody will then announce, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship.' So the companions of the cross will go with their cross, and the idolators (will go) with their idols, and the companions of every god (false deities) (will go) with their god, till there remain those who used to worship Allah, both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, and some of the people of the Scripture. Then Hell will be presented to them as if it were a mirage. Then it will be said to the jews, "What did you use to worship?' They will reply, 'We used to worship ezra, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has neither a wife nor a son. What do you want (now)?' They will reply, 'We want You to provide us with water.' Then it will be said to them 'Drink,' and they will fall down in Hell (instead). Then it will be said to the Christians, 'What did you use to worship?' They will reply, 'We used to worship Messiah, the son of Allah.' It will be said, 'You are liars, for Allah has neither a wife nor a son. What: do you want (now)?' They will say, 'We want You to provide us with water.' It will be said to them, 'Drink,' and they will fall down in Hell (instead). When there remain only those who used to worship Allah (Alone), both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, it will be said to them, 'What keeps you here when all the people have gone?' They will say, 'We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, 'Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate). Then the bridge will be laid across Hell." We, the companions of the Prophet said, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the bridge?' He said, "It is a slippery (bridge) on which there are clamps and (Hooks like) a thorny seed that is wide at one side and narrow at the other and has thorns with bent ends. Such a thorny seed is found in Najd and is called As-Sa'dan. Some of the believers will cross the bridge as quickly as the wink of an eye, some others as quick as lightning, a strong wind, fast horses or she-camels. So some will be safe without any harm; some will be safe after receiving some scratches, and some will fall down into Hell (Fire). The last person will cross by being dragged (over the bridge)." The Prophet said, "You (Muslims) cannot be more pressing in claiming from me a right that has been clearly proved to be yours than the believers in interceding with Almighty for their (Muslim) brothers on that Day, when they see themselves safe. They will say, 'O Allah! (Save) our brothers (for they) used to pray with us, fast with us and also do good deeds with us.' Allah will say, 'Go and take out (of Hell) anyone in whose heart you find faith equal to the weight of one (gold) Dinar.' Allah will forbid the Fire to burn the faces of those sinners. They will go to them and find some of them in Hell (Fire) up to their feet, and some up to the middle of their legs. So they will take out those whom they will recognize and then they will return, and Allah will say (to them), 'Go and take out (of Hell) anyone in whose heart you find faith equal to the weight of one half Dinar.' They will take out whomever they will recognize and return, and then Allah will say, 'Go and take out (of Hell) anyone in whose heart you find faith equal to the weight of an atom (or a smallest ant), and so they will take out all those whom they will recognize." Abu Sa'id said: If you do not believe me then read the Holy Verse:-- 'Surely! Allah wrongs not even of the weight of an atom (or a smallest ant) but if there is any good (done) He doubles it.' (4.40) The Prophet added, "Then the prophets and Angels and the believers will intercede, and (last of all) the Almighty (Allah) will say, 'Now remains My Intercession. He will then hold a handful of the Fire from which He will take out some people whose bodies have been burnt, and they will be thrown into a river at the entrance of Paradise, called the water of life. They will grow on its banks, as a seed carried by the torrent grows. You have noticed how it grows beside a rock or beside a tree, and how the side facing the sun is usually green while the side facing the shade is white. Those people will come out (of the River of Life) like pearls, and they will have (golden) necklaces, and then they will enter Paradise whereupon the people of Paradise will say, 'These are the people emancipated by the Beneficent. He has admitted them into Paradise without them having done any good deeds and without sending forth any good (for themselves).' Then it will be said to them, 'For you is what you have seen and its equivalent as well.'"  (Book #93, Hadith #532s)

Originally posted by islamispeace


If we use your logic, then the Bible contradicts itself on this issue as well.  According to Paul:

"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved." (Roman 10:9-10)

But, in the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus (pbuh) is alleged to have said:

"Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" (Matthew 7:22-23)

Whereas Paul claimed that anyone who sincerely believes that Jesus is "God" and rose from the dead will be saved, Matthew quotes Jesus himself as saying that there will be some people who will come to him on the Day of Judgment thinking they were believers, but who will be rejected by him due to some obvious flaw in their faith.

Is this a contradiction?  Or, does it mean that just because someone sincerely believed at one point but then at a later point became an apostate or a hypocrite,  does not mean that he will be saved?  Does the act of disbelief negate a previous act of belief and vice-versa? 

I think this is not a contradiction.  There are many examples where the Bible contradicts itself, but this is not one of them.  The moral is that even if you believe sincerely at one point, that does not guarantee that you will be saved even if you did something later which makes you a hypocrite or unbeliever.  The same moral is seen in the two hadiths above.

You are correct, there is no contradiction. In Matthew 7:22-23, nowhere is it stated that the people who did various things in the name of Jesus believed in their hearts that He was raised from the dead. Also, nowhere is it stated that they referred to Him as Lord on earth. There isn't really a contradiction here. Also, as a sidenote, there is more to believing in Jesus than believing only that God raised Him from the dead. Faith also includes works, as is written in the Book of James.

I agree with you that choosing to apostasy makes one's faith void, those who fall away are not saved, if they ever were to begin with.

The hadith I originally cited, #46, does not contradict #431.

I was wrong on this. My apologies for that mistake to you, and everyone else reading. Thank you for correcting my error.
 
However, #532 speaks of believers... believers who took the shahada and died being believers... still going to hell. How would you explain that?

BTW if there are other Muslims who would like to respond, I would love to hear from you. Thank you NABA and nothing so far for your input on other topics, please feel free to jump into this discussion.

Allahma3k. Blessed be the Name of the Lord.



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Quote nothing Replybullet Posted: 10 August 2013 at 8:12am
Although I don't do hadiths I only can say that being a believer has obligations that not just for professing but manifest in the daily life. One month fasting is not just abstain from food but also refraining the self from anger, lust, hate. In the biblical term Jesus was tempted by the devil, it was just fasting for 40 days, refraining the self from the flesh constant demand.

Islam creates bond between humans to be compassionate to one another. It teaches the different people to be together. The hajj is one awesome method in pooling different people in the same place, to be together. If there are still people who hate each other among fellow believers - than their professing belief most likely are not real.

Just the way I see it.

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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Posted: 10 August 2013 at 8:37am
Originally posted by nothing

Although I don't do hadiths I only can say that being a believer has obligations that not just for professing but manifest in the daily life. One month fasting is not just abstain from food but also refraining the self from anger, lust, hate. In the biblical term Jesus was tempted by the devil, it was just fasting for 40 days, refraining the self from the flesh constant demand.

Islam creates bond between humans to be compassionate to one another. It teaches the different people to be together. The hajj is one awesome method in pooling different people in the same place, to be together. If there are still people who hate each other among fellow believers - than their professing belief most likely are not real.

Just the way I see it.


Salaam Alaikum, nothing. Fasting is definitely a great thing, and it is important to love one's neighbours. Christians are also not allowed to hate other believers, or even non-Christians.

However, the hadith I brought up specifically mentions believers being thrown into- and then taken out of- hell. It contradicts the previous one where Muhammad stated that all who say the first part of the shahadah will have hell-fire denied to them.

May I ask why you don't "do hadiths"? Are you a Muslim?

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Quote islamispeace Replybullet Posted: 10 August 2013 at 2:51pm
Hadith #532 has to do with the temporary punishment the believers will face for any sins they did not repent for or were not forgiven.  Through the intercession of Muhammad (pbuh), they will be brought out of Hell after serving their time, however long Allah (swt) willed that was to be.

This also does not contradict the hadith #431 because merely saying the Shahadah does not excuse a Muslim from his/her other religious duties, such as prayer, fasting and charity.  There is a similar hadith in Sahih Muslim which clarifies this point:

"It is reported on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) addressed Mu'adh b. Jabal as he was riding behind him to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. He again called out: Mu'adh, to which he (again) replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure. He (the Holy Prophet) addressed him (again): Mu'adh, to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) observed: If anyone testifies (sincerely from his heart) that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His bondsman and His messenger, Allah immuned him from hell. He (Mu'adh) said: Messenger of Allah, should I not then inform people of it, so that they may be of good cheer? He replied: Then they would trust in it alone. Mu'adh told about it at the time of his death, to avoid sinning."  (Book #001, Hadith #0051)

So, this hadith clarifies the one in Sahih Bukhari that just saying the Shahadah would guarantee Paradise, but it would not exempt a Muslim from all other responsibilities that is required of him/her.  The newer Muslims in the time of the Prophet could have misinterpreted this hadith and thought that they did not need to do anything else.  In fact, when the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told this to Mu'adh (the narrator of this hadith), he asked him to not tell the people just yet.  Hence, Mu'adh waited until he was on his deathbed to do.  As Abdul Hamid Siddiqi states in his translation of Sahih Muslim:

"Affirmation in the oneness of God, without associating anything with Him, is certainly the golden rule to enter heavens [Paradise], but it entails heavy responsibility which the new converts could not fully appreciate and understand at that stage." (Volume 1, p. 25)

Therefore, there is no contradiction.  Saying the Shahadah sincerely will guarantee Paradise, but without good deeds or an overabundance of bad deeds, there may be temporary punishment in Hell, if Allah (swt) wills it. 

Allah (swt) knows best.
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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Posted: 10 August 2013 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by islamispeace

Hadith #532 has to do with the temporary punishment the believers will face for any sins they did not repent for or were not forgiven.  Through the intercession of Muhammad (pbuh), they will be brought out of Hell after serving their time, however long Allah (swt) willed that was to be.

This also does not contradict the hadith #431 because merely saying the Shahadah does not excuse a Muslim from his/her other religious duties, such as prayer, fasting and charity.  There is a similar hadith in Sahih Muslim which clarifies this point:

"It is reported on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) addressed Mu'adh b. Jabal as he was riding behind him to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. He again called out: Mu'adh, to which he (again) replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure. He (the Holy Prophet) addressed him (again): Mu'adh, to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) observed: If anyone testifies (sincerely from his heart) that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His bondsman and His messenger, Allah immuned him from hell. He (Mu'adh) said: Messenger of Allah, should I not then inform people of it, so that they may be of good cheer? He replied: Then they would trust in it alone. Mu'adh told about it at the time of his death, to avoid sinning."  (Book #001, Hadith #0051)

So, this hadith clarifies the one in Sahih Bukhari that just saying the Shahadah would guarantee Paradise, but it would not exempt a Muslim from all other responsibilities that is required of him/her.  The newer Muslims in the time of the Prophet could have misinterpreted this hadith and thought that they did not need to do anything else.  In fact, when the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told this to Mu'adh (the narrator of this hadith), he asked him to not tell the people just yet.  Hence, Mu'adh waited until he was on his deathbed to do.  As Abdul Hamid Siddiqi states in his translation of Sahih Muslim:

"Affirmation in the oneness of God, without associating anything with Him, is certainly the golden rule to enter heavens [Paradise], but it entails heavy responsibility which the new converts could not fully appreciate and understand at that stage." (Volume 1, p. 25)

Therefore, there is no contradiction.  Saying the Shahadah sincerely will guarantee Paradise, but without good deeds or an overabundance of bad deeds, there may be temporary punishment in Hell, if Allah (swt) wills it. 

Allah (swt) knows best.

Assalamu Alaikum, Islamispeace.

Thank you for sharing the hadith, and I agree with you, Islam does not teach that saying the shahadah will mean that a person will not enter hell temporarily for sins committed if s/he was a Muslim, or eternally if s/he died outside of the faith.

However, hadith #431 does not say that a Muslim who says shahadah sincerely (and dies in that state of faith) will merely enter heaven... it states that hellfire will be forbidden to that person.

(7) Narrated 'Utban bin Malik Al-Ansari: who was one of the men of the tribe of Bani Salim: Allah's Apostle came to me and said, "If anybody comes on the Day of Resurrection who has said: La ilaha illal-lah, sincerely, with the intention to win Allah's Pleasure, Allah will make the hell-Fire forbidden for him." (Book #76, Hadith #431)

 I'm really not trying to be rude or insulting, but if God says He will make hell-fire forbidden for someone on the Day of Resurrection, how would he or she be able to get past Him and enter it?

If in Hadith #431, Muhammad stated that those who say the first part of the shahadah with sincerity will enter Paradise, we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, he stated that God will make hell-fire forbidden for them. Yet as you earlier pointed out, there will be some Muslims who will enter hell and burned by the fire.

Allah knows best. Blessed be His holy Name.


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Hadith #532 has to do with the temporary punishment the believers will face for any sins they did not repent for or were not forgiven.  Through the intercession of Muhammad (pbuh), they will be brought out of Hell after serving their time, however long Allah (swt) willed that was to be.

This also does not contradict the hadith #431 because merely saying the Shahadah does not excuse a Muslim from his/her other religious duties, such as prayer, fasting and charity.  There is a similar hadith in Sahih Muslim which clarifies this point:

"It is reported on the authority of Anas b. Malik that the Prophet of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him) addressed Mu'adh b. Jabal as he was riding behind him to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. He again called out: Mu'adh, to which he (again) replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure. He (the Holy Prophet) addressed him (again): Mu'adh, to which he replied: At thy beck and call, and at thy pleasure, Messenger of Allah. Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) observed: If anyone testifies (sincerely from his heart) that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His bondsman and His messenger, Allah immuned him from hell. He (Mu'adh) said: Messenger of Allah, should I not then inform people of it, so that they may be of good cheer? He replied: Then they would trust in it alone. Mu'adh told about it at the time of his death, to avoid sinning."  (Book #001, Hadith #0051)

So, this hadith clarifies the one in Sahih Bukhari that just saying the Shahadah would guarantee Paradise, but it would not exempt a Muslim from all other responsibilities that is required of him/her.  The newer Muslims in the time of the Prophet could have misinterpreted this hadith and thought that they did not need to do anything else.  In fact, when the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) told this to Mu'adh (the narrator of this hadith), he asked him to not tell the people just yet.  Hence, Mu'adh waited until he was on his deathbed to do.  As Abdul Hamid Siddiqi states in his translation of Sahih Muslim:

"Affirmation in the oneness of God, without associating anything with Him, is certainly the golden rule to enter heavens [Paradise], but it entails heavy responsibility which the new converts could not fully appreciate and understand at that stage." (Volume 1, p. 25)

Therefore, there is no contradiction.  Saying the Shahadah sincerely will guarantee Paradise, but without good deeds or an overabundance of bad deeds, there may be temporary punishment in Hell, if Allah (swt) wills it. 

Allah (swt) knows best.

Assalamu Alaikum, Islamispeace.

Thank you for sharing the hadith, and I agree with you, Islam does not teach that saying the shahadah will mean that a person will not enter hell temporarily for sins committed if s/he was a Muslim, or eternally if s/he died outside of the faith.

However, hadith #431 does not say that a Muslim who says shahadah sincerely (and dies in that state of faith) will merely enter heaven... it states that hellfire will be forbidden to that person.

(7) Narrated 'Utban bin Malik Al-Ansari: who was one of the men of the tribe of Bani Salim: Allah's Apostle came to me and said, "If anybody comes on the Day of Resurrection who has said: La ilaha illal-lah, sincerely, with the intention to win Allah's Pleasure, Allah will make the hell-Fire forbidden for him." (Book #76, Hadith #431)

 I'm really not trying to be rude or insulting, but if God says He will make hell-fire forbidden for someone on the Day of Resurrection, how would he or she be able to get past Him and enter it?

If in Hadith #431, Muhammad stated that those who say the first part of the shahadah with sincerity will enter Paradise, we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, he stated that God will make hell-fire forbidden for them. Yet as you earlier pointed out, there will be some Muslims who will enter hell and burned by the fire.

Allah knows best. Blessed be His holy Name.


You have completely ignored the hadith from Sahih Muslim which clarifies the point.  Why do you think the Prophet went out of his way to say: "Then they would trust in it alone"?

The implication is that accepting the Shahadah carries with it the duties and responsibilities that are mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah, such as prayer, fasting and charity.  Neglecting these duties or thinking that they are not required would be tantamount to apostasy.  For example, the Prophet said that neglecting the daily prayers was a form of kufr.  Therefore, just stating the Shahadah would not be enough.  The Prophet did not want people to take his statement literally that saying the Shahadah sincerely was enough to go to Paradise.  They still had to carry out the duties that are required of every Muslim.

As Muslims, we follow the teachings of Muhammad (pbuh), who was himself taught by Allah (swt) through the angel Gabriel (as).  Muhammad (pbuh) clearly implied that stating the Shahadah was not enough, by his statement "...they would trust in it alone."  Therefore, your argument that there is a contradiction based solely on your reliance on hadith #532, while ignoring other hadiths which clarify the point, is erroneous.  Your claims are easily outweighed by the teachings of Muhammad (pbuh).
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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