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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 28 June 2013 at 9:53pm
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NABA, I guess what Im saying is which is more sinful? The hareems of the ottoman sultans?


Or the love/dating relationships of american teenagers/ college students? At least with former it seems that at least the women were protected.
 

It seemed hypocritical for this girl to be criticizing Islamic empire, since she herslef did immoral things....


With reference to my above post,
It was not sinful for men to have intimate relations with their unmarried slaves.

A love/dating relationship of today is not at all like that - its a sin for free men and women to mix as they do in our times.

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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2013 at 8:10am
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It was not sinful for men to have intimate relations with their unmarried slaves.

A love/dating relationship of today is not at all like that - its a sin for free men and women to mix as they do in our times.
 
So it's okay to have sex with a woman against her will, as long as she is your property and unable to resist; but it's wrong to have sex with a free woman who consents willingly? Wacko
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Quote NABA Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2013 at 8:58am
at Ron Webb,she is saying it was,at that time verse regarding adultery and fornication was not laid out.
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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2013 at 7:27pm
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So it's okay to have sex with a woman against her will, as long as she is your property and unable to resist; but it's wrong to have sex with a free woman who consents willingly? [IMG]http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Wacko" />


Where did you get that?

You want to read between the lines ... nice !
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2013 at 8:45pm
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Originally posted by Ron Webb


So it's okay to have sex with a woman against her will, as long as she is your property and unable to resist; but it's wrong to have sex with a free woman who consents willingly? [IMG]http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Wacko" />


Where did you get that?

You want to read between the lines ... nice !

Greetings Nausheen,
I'm sorry to say, but I get the very same message as Ron, and it is quite disturbing to say the least.
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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2013 at 10:05am

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So it's okay to have sex with a woman against her will, as long as she is your property and unable to resist; but it's wrong to have sex with a free woman who consents willingly?

Where did you get that?

You want to read between the lines ... nice !

I'm just restating what you said, only more clearly.  Which part do you disagree with?

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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2013 at 11:15am
Very frustrating that my posts are so delayed and interrupt the flow of the thread. Unhappy
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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 30 June 2013 at 11:46pm
Ron and CH,

Can you please quote where I said it was okay for the master to rape his unmarrid female slaves?

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