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    Posted: 18 June 2013 at 5:06pm
I have heard about this phenomena first long time ago before the internet was easily available for the masses. Than I saw briefly on TV documentary. And now it is easier to view from different cases with video clips available.

Bleeding occurs without cause, is it real to you or is it a fake?
If this is real according to you, is this only new phenomena? or -----

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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 18 June 2013 at 6:32pm
Greetings Nothing,

No, it is not a new phenomena.  St. Francis and Padre Pio are two of the well know cases.
I really do no know what I make of it.

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Quote NABA Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2013 at 9:16am
may be those cases are of congenital diseases such as haemophilia,von wilbrand disease,in which there is defect of clotting factors which may b the cause of bleeding.
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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2013 at 7:52pm
It has no scriptural basis or or rationale, so I don't see how even theists can see it as "real".  As for an explanation, I doubt very much that a single explanation will cover all cases.  Most of them are probably pious frauds of various kinds or apocryphal stories, some may be outright charlatanry, and a few unconsciously self-inflicted.  (I'm sure that in the throes of a deep religious trance, all sorts of things could happen that may later be recalled imperfectly or not at all.)
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2013 at 6:21am
Willebrand-Jrgens is the most common blood-clotting disorder (dominant inheritance) and probably a good explanation.
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Quote nothing Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2013 at 8:12am
This is the doco that I saw briefly, look real to me considering other people were there all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEr6Vee83TU


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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2013 at 4:32pm
Yeah, you saw it on Youtube, so it must be real. Tongue
 
C'mon, nothing, it doesn't even make theological sense.  It's not part of Christian doctrine, and it serves no purpose in God's alleged plan.  Why?
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2013 at 5:47pm
Originally posted by nothing

This is the doco that I saw briefly, look real to me considering other people were there all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEr6Vee83TU

Hi Nothing,
I say ignore Ron.  He's not a believer.
I think this is one of the great mysteries that we will never understand.  We either believe or we do not.  Just like the miracles of statues that weep, and the Marian apparitions.  We can not explain the supernatural.
Salaam brother, keep on believing. Smile

added note: doctrine has nothing to do with it.  Why would doctrine have anything to do with anything?  Doctrine is what man comes up with.  The supernatural is what the Creator gives us... what we witness and/or experience by our own eyes... often unexplainable.



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