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Quote nothing Replybullet Posted: 14 June 2013 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Ron Webb

It's funny, actually.  I remember a while ago someone here was trying to tell me that 78:6-7 ("Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs?") shows how Allah used the mountains to steady the earth and prevent it from moving.  Never mind that the most mountainous regions of the earth are also the most earthquake-prone. Wink

In my understanding there are two types of mountains in the Qur'an. Generally they all known as JABAL, but when it mention ROWASIYA it is associated it with flowing water (streams) and trees and fertile lands. I don't think the word "PEG" ever associated with Rowasiya, which is the characteristic of active volcanic mountains in which they are earth quake prone.

But maybe I am wrong, so who would correct me?
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 15 June 2013 at 6:05am
I agree with Ron. We should expose the ridiculousness of Qur'anic scientific foreknowledge movements like Bucailleism. 
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Quote TSontani Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2013 at 2:14am

Assalaamu’alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

 

Now I know why Rasulallah Muhammad SAW always had a high fever when he received revelation. I imagine how hard he delivered QS-27: 88, 1400 years ago to the Arabs that already have the trust of ignorance for centuries.

 

Surah 3 (Ali 'Imran / Family of 'Imran), Verse 7:

It is He who sent down Al Kitab (Al Qur'an) to you. Among its contents were verses precise (muhkamaat), those are the main contents of the Qur'an and others were (verses) unspecific (mutasyaabihaat). As for those in whose hearts tend to perversity, they follow a part of mutasyaabihaat verses to cause a scandal, and to seek out its hidden meanings (that’s suitable to them), but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And people who have deep knowledge say: "We believe in mutasyaabihaat verses, all of it is from our Lord". And no one take a lesson (from it) except the people who always uses his wits.

 

In my opinion Qur’an Surah-27, Verse-88 is one of mutasyaabihaat verses, verses can only be understood by those able to think clearly, either from the previous generation or the generation of the next centuries.

For people who can not afford to think about it, I encourage you to pay attention Quran Surah-5, Verse-101:

O you who believe, do not ask (to your Prophet) when things are explained to you, surely troubling you and if you ask at the time the Qur'an was being revealed, will be explained to you. God forgive (you) about these things. Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

 

For me personally, I do not able to prove that the Qur'an is not the scientific literature. Especially after reading the Qur'an Surah following

§   Surah-18, Verse-109:
Say: "Had it the sea were ink for (writing) the words of my Lord, the sea would indeed be finished before it runs out (written) Words of my Lord, even if we were to bring as much of it (too).

§   Surah-31, Verse-27:

And if all the trees on earth were pens and the sea (were ink), added to it seven seas (again) after (dry) it, surely the words of Allah will not finish to be written. Surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

 

But any way I should thank to your comments, either support or just making fun and for Muslims all over the world, I encourage you to pay attention to

Qur’an Surah-2, Verse-269 following:

Allah confers al hikmah (deep understanding about which the Holy Qur'an and As Sunnah) to whom He wills. And he who granted al hikmah, he really has awarded the many grace. And only those intelligent person who can take a lesson (from the word of God).

 

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Quote NABA Replybullet Posted: 18 June 2013 at 1:08pm
REGARDING THE CH 78 V 6-7, MOUNTAINS HAVE ROOTS BENEATH THE EARTH LIKE PEGS, MENTIONED IN BOOK ANATOMY OF EARTH P 220.SCIENCE IS A SUBJECT THAT STUDIES NATURE, QURAN IS WAY ABOVE SCIENCE.
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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Posted: 06 August 2013 at 7:45pm
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When Muslims think that the Qur'an is way above science, this explains why Muslims haven't invented anything significant and haven't made any scientific discoveries since the year 1258.

My advice therefore: Don't think of the Qur'an as a science book. Think of it as a spiritual book.


Nothing significant? What about vaccinations against smallpox?

12) Vaccination
 
The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.


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Quote Ron Webb Replybullet Posted: 06 August 2013 at 8:35pm
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Nothing significant? What about vaccinations against smallpox?
 
Is that mentioned in the Quran?
Addeenul ‘Aql – Religion is intellect.
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Quote TG12345 Replybullet Posted: 06 August 2013 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by Ron Webb

Originally posted by TG12345

Nothing significant? What about vaccinations against smallpox?
 
Is that mentioned in the Quran?

It isn't, but I was responding to the assertion that "Muslims haven't invented anything significant and haven't made any scientific discoveries since the year 1258."

I have demonstrated this to not be true.


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