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Mahdi The Seeke
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Topic: What are human beings? Just lumps of meat?
Posted: 23 February 2013 at 2:05pm

What are human beings? Just lumps of meat? We are divine.

You also have God within you and can become one with God.

People, please discuss the above statements. Experiential said the above and i want to know if all christians believe the same.

Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 23 February 2013 at 2:06pm

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Posted: 27 February 2013 at 2:14am

Hi Mahdi.

If you want to quote me that’s fine but please do so in context. See the context provided where Jesus quoted Psalm 82.6

Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ?

If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken, what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

John 10:34 -36

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Posted: 28 February 2013 at 10:30am

Originally posted by Experiential

Hi Mahdi.

If you want to quote me that’s fine but please do so in context. See the context provided where Jesus quoted Psalm 82.6

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Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ? <o:p></o:p>

If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken, what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

John 10:34 -36

so he was simply claiming what the jews were already claiming. how does that make him God.

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Posted: 02 March 2013 at 3:24pm

Read on from John 10.36-

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"?

John 10:35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—

John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 8:27am

Originally posted by Experiential

Read on from John 10.36-

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John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"?

John 10:35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—

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John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? <o:p></o:p>

so now, son of God=God

john 10:34 refers to psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’.

so if son of God=God, how many Gods are there?

Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 03 March 2013 at 8:33am

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Posted: 03 March 2013 at 9:57pm

Why not read John verse 10 properly.

what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?

John 10:36

There is only One God. One God with three aspects (only 3 that have been revealed to humanity at this stage anyway). God the Son is one of the aspects. It is God the Son that has been made human. We as human are only ‘like’ gods. Not God.

Once again - "begotten" means – single of its kind; only, unique.

Edited by Experiential - 03 March 2013 at 9:58pm

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Mahdi The Seeke Male Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 253	Topic: What are human beings? Just lumps of meat? Posted: 23 February 2013 at 2:05pm
	What are human beings? Just lumps of meat? We are divine. You also have God within you and can become one with God. People, please discuss the above statements. Experiential said the above and i want to know if all christians believe the same. Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 23 February 2013 at 2:06pm
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Experiential Senior Member Joined: 23 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 266	Posted: 27 February 2013 at 2:14am
	Hi Mahdi. If you want to quote me that’s fine but please do so in context. See the context provided where Jesus quoted Psalm 82.6 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken, what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? John 10:34 -36
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Mahdi The Seeke Male Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 253	Posted: 28 February 2013 at 10:30am
	*Originally posted by Experiential* <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Hi Mahdi. <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">If you want to quote me that’s fine but please do so in context. See the context provided where Jesus quoted Psalm 82.6 <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </o:p> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT face="Times New Roman">Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken, what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT face="Times New Roman">Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">John 10:34 -36 so he was simply claiming what the jews were already claiming. how does that make him God.
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Experiential Senior Member Joined: 23 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 266	Posted: 02 March 2013 at 3:24pm
	Read on from John 10.36- John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"? John 10:35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?
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Mahdi The Seeke Male Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 253	Posted: 03 March 2013 at 8:27am
	*Originally posted by Experiential* <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Read on from John 10.36- <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </o:p> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT face="Times New Roman">John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT face="Times New Roman">John 10:35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </o:p> <P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" =Msonormal><FONT face="Times New Roman">John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p> so now, son of God=God john 10:34 refers to psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’. so if son of God=God, how many Gods are there? Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 03 March 2013 at 8:33am
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Experiential Senior Member Joined: 23 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 266	Posted: 03 March 2013 at 9:57pm
	Why not read John verse 10 properly. what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? John 10:36 There is only One God. One God with three aspects (only 3 that have been revealed to humanity at this stage anyway). God the Son is one of the aspects. It is God the Son that has been made human. We as human are only ‘like’ gods. Not God. Once again - "begotten" means – single of its kind; only, unique. Edited by Experiential - 03 March 2013 at 9:58pm
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