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Webber

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Posted: 22 March 2013 at 7:07am

Hey Mahdi,

I've looked and looked and every picture I've seen of Jesus, He has long hair. Alas, can't get away from it, go figure.

Long blond hair, blue eyes, and a really nice tan. Where do we go from here?

I didn't want to be your show stopper here.

I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

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Mahdi The Seeke
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Posted: 26 March 2013 at 4:51am

1 Corinthians 7:12-14 New International Version
(NIV) 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord):

enuff said

Again

1 Corinthians 7 (New
International Version)25 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord,

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Webber

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Posted: 27 March 2013 at 12:22am

Is Paul not allowed to add his personal comments in his letters?

That's it? Your whole refutation?

What about the long hair? That's where you started. What happened? Jesus got a hair cut?

Edited by Webber - 27 March 2013 at 12:22am

I'm a Gentile.
Numb. 6:24-26

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Posted: 03 May 2013 at 10:37am

Since so many muslims seem to take issue with Paul, without ever reading what Paul taught, I have decided to share some of the teachings of Paul. Salaam.

²⁵Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

²⁷Neither give place to the devil.

³¹Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

³²And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God ... hath forgiven you.

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Placid
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Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:31am

Hi,

The thing I like about the letters that Paul wrote to the Churches is that he wrote to the new Christians in simple language and emphasized the same to a Gentile audience that did not have much previous spiritual understanding --- as Jesus emphasized to the very religious Jews.

Jesus gave His disciples a new lifestyle to follow, when He said in John 13:
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
--- (Jesus said the new Commandment to Love God and love your neighbor as yourself, fulfilled the Old Testament Laws.)

And Paul says it simply in Romans 13:
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Placid

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Posted: 29 May 2013 at 2:26pm

¹⁴For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

¹⁵But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

¹⁶This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

¹⁷For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: ...

¹⁹Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,²⁰Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,²¹Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

²²But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,²³Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

²⁴And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

²⁵If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

²⁶Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

- the teaching of Paul

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Webber Senior Member Joined: 09 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 112	Posted: 22 March 2013 at 7:07am
	Hey Mahdi, I've looked and looked and every picture I've seen of Jesus, He has long hair. Alas, can't get away from it, go figure. Long blond hair, blue eyes, and a really nice tan. Where do we go from here? I didn't want to be your show stopper here.
	I'm a Gentile. Numb. 6:24-26
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Mahdi The Seeke Male Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 257	Posted: 26 March 2013 at 4:51am
	1 Corinthians 7:12-14 New International Version (NIV) 12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): enuff said Again 1 Corinthians 7 (New International Version)25 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord,
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Webber Senior Member Joined: 09 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 112	Posted: 27 March 2013 at 12:22am
	Is Paul not allowed to add his personal comments in his letters? That's it? Your whole refutation? What about the long hair? That's where you started. What happened? Jesus got a hair cut? Edited by Webber - 27 March 2013 at 12:22am
	I'm a Gentile. Numb. 6:24-26
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 03 May 2013 at 10:37am
	Since so many muslims seem to take issue with Paul, without ever reading what Paul taught, I have decided to share some of the teachings of Paul. Salaam. ²⁵Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. ²⁷Neither give place to the devil. ³¹Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: ³²And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God ... hath forgiven you.
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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Placid Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 185	Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:31am
	Hi, The thing I like about the letters that Paul wrote to the Churches is that he wrote to the new Christians in simple language and emphasized the same to a Gentile audience that did not have much previous spiritual understanding --- as Jesus emphasized to the very religious Jews. Jesus gave His disciples a new lifestyle to follow, when He said in John 13: 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” --- (Jesus said the new Commandment to Love God and love your neighbor as yourself, fulfilled the Old Testament Laws.) And Paul says it simply in Romans 13: 8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Placid
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 29 May 2013 at 2:26pm
	¹⁴For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. ¹⁵But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. ¹⁶This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. ¹⁷For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: ... ¹⁹Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,²⁰Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,²¹Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. ²²But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,²³Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. ²⁴And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. ²⁵If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. ²⁶Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. - the teaching of Paul
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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