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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 19 January 2014 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Abu Loren

  the people were simple folk who were unlettered and did not keep any written records.

Greetings Abu,
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Regarding your statement above...

Still, they would have had spoken records... spoken knowledge, of which they obviously had none or they would have easily accepted what Muhammad was teaching.

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Quote Abu Loren Replybullet Posted: 20 January 2014 at 3:07am
You are right,that is why Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala reminds us and gives us the correct account of things.
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Quote Abu Loren Replybullet Posted: 11 February 2014 at 5:12am
Let's put this argument to rest. The following verses from the Qur'an clearly says that it was Ismael who was nearly sacrificed so please take note of verse 112.

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And [then] he said, "Indeed, I will go to [where I am ordered by] my Lord; He will guide me.
My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy.
And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, "O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think." He said, "O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."
And when they had both submitted and he put him down upon his forehead,
We called to him, "O Abraham,
You have fulfilled the vision." Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.
Indeed, this was the clear trial.
And We ransomed him with a great sacrifice,
And We left for him [favorable mention] among later generations:
"Peace upon Abraham."
Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.
Indeed, he was of Our believing servants.
And We gave him good tidings of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous.
37:99-112

If the intended sacrifice was Prophet Isaac (Alayhi Salaam) then verse 112 doesn't make sense.

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