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Nur_Ilahi

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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 7:13pm

Originally posted by Webber

So if a Muslim man decided to orchestrate a genocide of Christians he may not even have to repent...

Hi Webber,
Pls read my post carefully.

Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi

However if he was a Muslim man full of repentance, InshaAllah - God Willing, he will enter heaven because dont ever forget that Allah is Al-Ghafur (Most Forgiving).

Tks.

Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.

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Posted: 04 February 2013 at 7:30pm

What was it someone said to me just the other day...

"I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately."

and my response to them;

"And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind of God.
Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong in the end."

May God bless and keep us from harm.

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Posted: 05 February 2013 at 5:43am

Originally posted by Caringheart

What was it someone said to me just the other day...

"I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately."

and my response to them;

"And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is
dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind
of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never
claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know
what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also
can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong
in the end."

May God bless and keep us from harm.

so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know

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Posted: 06 February 2013 at 9:44am

Originally posted by nirvana

Originally posted by Caringheart

What was it someone said to me just the other day...

"I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately."

and my response to them;

"And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is
dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind
of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never
claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know
what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also
can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong
in the end."

May God bless and keep us from harm.

so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know

Greetings Nirvana,

I think there is good in all people, and that God will choose from among all of us, who it was that best served Him. I do believe that all who are chosen by God will see the Truth of Jesus though, when the time comes for it... and that indeed, this will be a prerequisite to admittance into the kingdom of God. I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus.

Peace,
Caringheart

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. (the words of Jesus)

Edited by Caringheart - 06 February 2013 at 9:51am

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Posted: 07 February 2013 at 3:26am

Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by nirvana

Originally posted by Caringheart

What was it someone said to me just the other day...

"I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately."

and my response to them;

"And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is
dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind
of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never
claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know
what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also
can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong
in the end."

May God bless and keep us from harm.

so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know

Greetings Nirvana,I think there is good in all people, and that God will choose from among all of us, who it was that best served Him. I do believe that all who are chosen by God will see the Truth of Jesus though, when the time comes for it... and that indeed, this will be a prerequisite to admittance into the kingdom of God. I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus.Peace,Caringheart<span ="st"="">In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.</span> (the words of Jesus)

I do believe that all who are chosen by God

guess i have not been 'chosen'

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Posted: 08 February 2013 at 10:55am

Originally posted by nirvana

I do believe that all who are chosen by God

guess i have not been 'chosen'

Greetings Nirvana,

"when the time comes for it" Smile

The time has not yet come.

"I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus."
Do you choose Him?

Salaam,
Caringheart

Edited by Caringheart - 08 February 2013 at 10:56am

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Posted: 10 February 2013 at 11:25am

Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by nirvana

I do believe that all who are chosen by God

guess i have not been 'chosen'

Greetings Nirvana,"when the time comes for it" [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /> The time has not yet come."I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the
kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus." Do you choose Him?Salaam,Caringheart

no. i do not choose an all powerful being who is supposed to be love itself but lets innocent people suffer.

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Posted: 11 February 2013 at 2:54pm

Originally posted by nirvana

no. i do not choose an all powerful being who is supposed to be love itself but lets innocent people suffer.

Greetings Nirvana,

Are you an athiest then... one who does not believe in God? Or is there something else that you believe?

Thanks for sharing if you will,
Caringheart

Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever

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Nur_Ilahi Senior Member Joined: 19 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1031	Posted: 04 February 2013 at 7:13pm
	*Originally posted by Webber* So if a Muslim man decided to orchestrate a genocide of Christians he may not even have to repent... Hi Webber, Pls read my post carefully. *Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi* However if he was a Muslim man full of repentance, InshaAllah - God Willing, he will enter heaven because dont ever forget that Allah is Al-Ghafur (Most Forgiving). Tks.
	Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1333	Posted: 04 February 2013 at 7:30pm
	What was it someone said to me just the other day... "I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately." and my response to them; "And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong in the end." May God bless and keep us from harm.
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 05 February 2013 at 5:43am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* What was it someone said to me just the other day... "I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately." and my response to them; "And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong in the end." May God bless and keep us from harm. so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1333	Posted: 06 February 2013 at 9:44am
	*Originally posted by nirvana* *Originally posted by Caringheart* What was it someone said to me just the other day... "I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately." and my response to them; "And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong in the end." May God bless and keep us from harm. so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know Greetings Nirvana, I think there is good in all people, and that God will choose from among all of us, who it was that best served Him. I do believe that all who are chosen by God will see the Truth of Jesus though, when the time comes for it... and that indeed, this will be a prerequisite to admittance into the kingdom of God. I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus. Peace, Caringheart In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. (the words of Jesus) Edited by Caringheart - 06 February 2013 at 9:51am
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 07 February 2013 at 3:26am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by nirvana* *Originally posted by Caringheart* What was it someone said to me just the other day... "I'm one of those bizarre types who think 'absolute certainty' of any flavour is actually dangerous. Especially my own. Scripture never persuades me and neither does poetry, unfortunately." and my response to them; "And I agree that you are right... claiming absolute certainty is dangerous. Then we are crossing the line into thinking we have the mind of God. Though I do believe in absolute authority, I would never claim to be one to have it. I know what I believe to be true. I know what seems right to me and will always try to guide others, but I also can always acknowledge that any one of us could find that we are wrong in the end." May God bless and keep us from harm. so you are not sure christianity is the right way. good to know Greetings Nirvana,I think there is good in all people, and that God will choose from among all of us, who it was that best served Him. I do believe that all who are chosen by God will see the Truth of Jesus though, when the time comes for it... and that indeed, this will be a prerequisite to admittance into the kingdom of God. I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus.Peace,Caringheart<span ="st"="">In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.</span> (the words of Jesus) I do believe that all who are chosen by God guess i have not been 'chosen'
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1333	Posted: 08 February 2013 at 10:55am
	*Originally posted by nirvana* I do believe that all who are chosen by God guess i have not been 'chosen' Greetings Nirvana, "when the time comes for it" The time has not yet come. "I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus." Do you choose Him? Salaam, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 08 February 2013 at 10:56am
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 10 February 2013 at 11:25am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by nirvana* I do believe that all who are chosen by God guess i have not been 'chosen' Greetings Nirvana,"when the time comes for it" [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /> The time has not yet come."I have an open mind to the idea that there are other choices besides the kingdom of God and hell. My choice is that I want to be with Jesus." Do you choose Him?Salaam,Caringheart no. i do not choose an all powerful being who is supposed to be love itself but lets innocent people suffer.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1333	Posted: 11 February 2013 at 2:54pm
	*Originally posted by nirvana* no. i do not choose an all powerful being who is supposed to be love itself but lets innocent people suffer. Greetings Nirvana, Are you an athiest then... one who does not believe in God? Or is there something else that you believe? Thanks for sharing if you will, Caringheart
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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