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   I don't presume to know or decide who God will allow into heaven.  I do believe that all, whether they have been Buddhist, Hindu, sunni, shia, or sufi, mormon, Jehovah's witness, Catholic, protestant, Methodist, or any other religion, will come at the end of times to see the truth that is Jesus, and that this will be a pre-cursor to entry.

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 31 January 2013 at 11:15pm
	I don't presume to know or decide who God will allow into heaven. I do believe that all, whether they have been Buddhist, Hindu, sunni, shia, or sufi, mormon, Jehovah's witness, Catholic, protestant, Methodist, or any other religion, will come at the end of times to see the truth that is Jesus, and that this will be a pre-cursor to entry.
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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Mahdi The Seeke Male Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 257	Posted: 01 February 2013 at 12:16am
	you have to worship the one true GOD and obey GOD'S laws to gain paradise. Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 01 February 2013 at 11:40pm
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nirvana Newbie Joined: 27 January 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Posted: 01 February 2013 at 9:20am
	*Originally posted by TG12345* *Originally posted by nirvana* who goes to heaven. this is for all christians and muslims people. will the most compassionate/honest/polite hindu/Buddhist go to hell while the most treacherous/lying/rude/murderous etc muslim/christian goes to heaven? A Christian who is murderous/rude/lying/treacherous and doesn't try to change it is a person who is consciously and willingly living in sin and does not have the Holy Spirit inside him/her. Regardless of what he or she says, that person does not believe in Christ or try to follow Him, and therefore is not a Christian. let's say a christian man orchestrates a genocide of hindus and after millions die cruel deaths, he is overcome with guilt and repents. will he go to heaven while is hindu victims go to hell?
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Nur_Ilahi Senior Member Joined: 19 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1031	Posted: 02 February 2013 at 7:24am
	*Originally posted by nirvana* let's say a christian man orchestrates a genocide of hindus and after millions die cruel deaths, he is overcome with guilt and repents. will he go to heaven while is hindu victims go to hell? If it were a Christian man, theoretically, he still goes to hell together with the hindu victims. Still, we cannot be judges of other people's intentions. That we have to leave to God Almighty because he is Al-Aleem - All knowing. However if he was a Muslim man full of repentance, InshaAllah - God Willing, he will enter heaven because dont ever forget that Allah is Al-Ghafur (Most Forgiving).
	Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Webber Senior Member Joined: 09 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 112	Posted: 02 February 2013 at 8:32am
	So if a Muslim man decided to orchestrate a genocide of Christians he may not even have to repent...
	I'm a Gentile. Numb. 6:24-26
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 02 February 2013 at 2:16pm
	*Originally posted by nirvana* who goes to heaven. this is for all christians and muslims people. will the most compassionate/honest/polite hindu/Buddhist go to hell while the most treacherous/lying/rude/murderous etc muslim/christian goes to heaven? nirvana, the answer is simple and it is not from myself rather from the one who know us and knows what we do not know. I have studied the Bible and the Quran, and according to both of them God will not forgive the sin of serving and worshiping anyone other than Him. Also it is important to know that God is forgiving so even if the worst sinner comes to Him and seeks His forgiveness and follow His guidance he/she will find God Forgiving and Merciful. So as long as the person is not worshiping what God has created there is a chance, but you have to ask for it! Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1331	Posted: 02 February 2013 at 4:37pm
	I love the way people think they can decide what God will do. I do not pretend to have the 'mind of God'. “Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty? ⁸They are higher than the heavens above—what can you do? They are deeper than the depths below—what can you know?" - Job 11
	Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 04 February 2013 at 3:08pm
	Caringheart, ..no we don't. We only convey what God has said, nothing from ourselves. What I wrote above is from those respective sources. Here is the Bible's version: Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." And here is the Final Testament. 4:48 (Y. Ali) "Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed." Bring your proof if you speak the truth, most certainly, you cannot! Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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