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Mahdi The Seeke
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![]() Posted: 31 January 2013 at 12:06am |
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Originally posted by Caringheart i am asking christians to forgive everybody their sins so we can all go to heaven, since they received the Holy spirit and have power to forgive sins
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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 31 January 2013 at 9:07am |
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Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke Originally posted by Caringheart i am asking christians to forgive everybody their sins so we can all go to heaven, since they received the Holy spirit and have power to forgive sinsIs there a question here? Ah, well, greetings Mahdi, This scripture was specifically Jesus speaking to His 12 Apostles. It was to them that he gave the power to forgive sins. I wondered why you would be asking 'Christians' to forgive sins. There is no scripture(that I am aware of) that says that all those who receive the Holy Spirit will have the authority to forgive sins. This was only spoken by Jesus to His Apostles. We do however, all have the power to forgive those who trespass against our own selves, which is what Jesus encourages us to do. "...and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..." - the prayer Jesus taught His disciples to say. Salaam, Caringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever |
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Mahdi The Seeke
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![]() Posted: 31 January 2013 at 12:10pm |
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Originally posted by Webber
why not take Jesus for his word instead of relying on your own personal opinion , conjecture and derived beliefs? Originally posted by Caringheart
Is there a question here? You know how some people always end their sentences with a higher pitch like asking a question? Goofy, I know, but ... Actually I think this is the man that knows everything and once we finish wallowing our conjecture he'll set us all back on the straight path. Can't wait, :) FINALLY, somebody who gets me. |
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Webber
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![]() Posted: 01 February 2013 at 6:39pm |
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Gotcha, now how long must we wait?
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I'm a Gentile.
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Mahdi The Seeke
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![]() Posted: 01 February 2013 at 11:31pm |
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Originally posted by Caringheart so, christians have not received the holy spirit?
Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke Ah, well, greetings Mahdi,This scripture was specifically Jesus speaking to His 12 Apostles. It was to them that he gave the power to forgive sins.I wondered why you would be asking 'Christians' to forgive sins.There is no scripture(that I am aware of) that says that all those who receive the Holy Spirit will have the authority to forgive sins. This was only spoken by Jesus to His Apostles.We do however, all have the power to forgive those who trespass against our own selves, which is what Jesus encourages us to do."...and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..." - the prayer Jesus taught His disciples to say.Salaam,CaringheartOriginally posted by Caringheart i am asking christians to forgive everybody their sins so we can all go to heaven, since they received the Holy spirit and have power to forgive sinsIs there a question here? |
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Caringheart
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![]() Posted: 03 February 2013 at 10:42am |
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Greetings Mahdi,
"There is no scripture(that I am aware of) that says that all those who receive the Holy Spirit will have the authority to forgive sins." We do however, all have the power to forgive those who trespass against our own selves, which is what Jesus encourages us to do."... forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..." You do not think one needs the power of God's Holy Spirit to find it in ones self to forgive those who have done ill? I do. Salaam, Caringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
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Mahdi The Seeke
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![]() Posted: 04 February 2013 at 3:47am |
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Originally posted by Caringheart what you think is irrelevant. i am not trying to be rude. but let us deal with whart the Bible says. catholics use the verses i quoted to validate the sacrament of confession. so maybe you should look that up.Greetings Mahdi,"There is no scripture(that I am aware of) that says that all those who receive the Holy Spirit will have the authority to forgive sins."We do however, all have the power to forgive those who trespass against our own selves, which is what Jesus encourages us to do."... forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us..."You do not think one needs the power of God's Holy Spirit to find it in ones self to forgive those who have done ill? I do.Salaam,Caringheart Edited by Mahdi The Seeke - 04 February 2013 at 3:48am |
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Webber
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![]() Posted: 05 February 2013 at 7:03am |
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Lol, Sorry Caringheart. I'm sure everything I say is irrelevent as well. We are not here to explain our beliefs but to defend the Catholics.
I'm not looking it up. What Catholics do is irrelevent to me. Try a little Sunni hadith on Mahdi the seeker and encourage him to explain it until it makes sense. |
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I'm a Gentile.
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