Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin  Old ForumOld Forum  Twitter  Facebook
Advertisement:
         

General Discussion
 IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum : General : General Discussion
Message Icon Topic: Who are the Real Arabs ? Post Reply Post New Topic
<< Prev Page  of 2
Author Message
1914
Male Christian
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 06 July 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 39
Quote 1914 Replybullet Posted: 01 September 2013 at 3:58pm

Who are the Arabs in Holy Scriptures or in the Quran or in Arabia? The only way to answer all three questions definitively is by going to the oldest ancient and sacred holy book in history that still exists today, Genesis. Why? Because it is only in Genesis (10) that gives you first hand the ‘sons of Noah’ according to their families, according to their tongues, in their lands and by their nations.

Generally speaking, the Arab and or Arabian of today is used in a general sense, applying to the inhabitant of Arabia. However, after the flood of Noah, Arabia became the home to the families of Shem and Ham listed in Genesis 10. 

So, to answer your question the ‘real Arabs’ were at the start one fourth Semetic and three fourths Hametic from a racial stand-point.

Historically the Assyrians, Chaldeans, Hebrews, Syrians, and some Arabian tribes, are descendants of Shem.

Ethiopians, Egyptians, Canaanites, and some African and Arabian tribes descended from Ham.

Indo-Europeans are descendants of Japheth which Arabs do not fall under, at all!

I hope that answers your question. .

IP IP Logged
Al Saadiqeen21
Male None
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 August 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 223
Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 20 October 2013 at 9:26pm

The point of all of this , Is to bring to your Attention that all of your Arabic Countries are Ruled by Straight , Or Curly Haired people , With Aquiline Features , Whether Dark , Tan or Light Skinned . The original features of The Nuwba , Has been pushed out , And in came these Half Caucasians , Half Hindu people who took control . Its called Genetic Annihilation . If you were to go into Iraq , You would see that those are not real Iraqis . They are A Mixture of Europeans . The same thing in Iran , Or Saudi Arabia ; Let take a look at some of these countries .

The Five Book of Moses Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. Genesis 10 ; 22 , States , And I Quote ; The children of Shem and his confidante wife Faatin were ; Elam ''the high landers '' , father of the Elamites , had a confidante wife named Huda '' right guidance '' , and Asshur '' level landers '' , Father of the Syrians whose tongue was Arabic , had a had a confidante wife named Ruth '' desirable '' , and Arfaxad '' those who regenerate '' had a confidante wife named Hammath '' very black '' , and Lud '' the ones who desire to bring forth '' had a confidante wife named Naimah '' gentle '' , and Aram ''those who are highest '' , father of the Aramites whose tongue was Aramic . < King James Version ( Aramic ) Keyword Study Bible >


The Five Book of Moses Revealed In The Year 1512 B.C.E. Genesis 10 ; 1, States , And I Quote ; And these are the genealogies of the children of Noah the new Adam; Shem '' name '' father of the Semitic tribes , Ham ''burnt black skin '' , father of Libana , Canaan '' lowlander'' , and Japheth '' he who added on '' , the father of the Japhethites . And to them were children born after the flood . < King James Version ( Aramic ) Keyword Study Bible >

And after them came The Kassites also spelled Cassites ( Khossaeans ) . The Kassites are Indo European people that inhabited the mountains East of Babylon . The Kassites Kings took Babylonian names and married into the Royal family of Assyria . They entered Babylon by a process of peaceful penetration . Then they attained power and their Dynasty ruled from Ca . 1659 To Ca . 1175 B.C. Iran was also known as Persia from the ancient Greek name '' Persis '' But in 1935 A.D. The Iranian government requested use of the older and correct name , Iran . meaning ''Land Of The Aryans ,'' Instead of Persia . Iran also shares bodeders with Turkey and Iraq on the West , and with Afghanistan and Pakistan on the East .

The Elamite kingdom ruled in Southwestern Iran from before 1200 B.C. To 649 B.C. when the Assyrians plundered Susa , The chief city . During this period . Two groups of people came to Iran . From Southern Russia and Central Asia . These groups mixed in with The Elamites , The Kassites and The Mannaeans , Who occupied the part of Iran west of the central descerts . One group settled in Northern Iran and founded the kingdom of Media . The other group lived in Southern Iran , In an area that the Greek later called Persis . Some people still call the country Persia , Instead of Iran , Even though Persia rally refers only to the Southwestern part of Iran . The Medes , From Media were an Indo European people .

The Persians remained under the rule of the Median Kings unti about 550 B.C. They Cyrus the great , A Persian King , Revolred and overthrew the Median Rule . By 539 B.C., The Persians conquered Babylonia , Syria , And Palestine . Cyus 'Son , Cambyses , Added Egipt in 525 B.C. During this period , The Zoroastrian religion flourished in The Empire and remained Persia's Chief Religion until the Arabs converted the people to The Islamic religion after they conquered the country . The Greeks conquered The Persian Empire in 490 B.C. In about 330 B.C. Alexander The Great conquered all Iran and his followers ruled for the next 80 years .

Then in about 250 B.C., The Parthians ruled Iran until about 224 A.D. When the Persians under the Sassanid Dynasty , Conquerd them . In 260 A.D. A Persian defeated The Romans who had tried to invade Iran . And captured The Roman Emperor , Valerian . The Sassanid Dynasty rule Iran . And What is now Iraq until the 600's . An Arabian army invaded Iran from the West in 641 , Bringing A New Religion . Islam . The Arabs soon conquered Iran , And the Caliphs of Damascus and Baghdad ruled for the next 200 years . The Arabs converted most Iranians to Islam , And introduced the Arabic Alphabet and Arabic words into the Iranian language .

The Muslims empire crumbled after the 800's because of rivalries and other reasons , Iran broke up into small kingdoms under various Iranian rulers . Then in 1037 A.D. The Seljuk Turks from Turkestan conquered most of the Itanian kingsdoms . They and other Turks ruled the region until 1221 A.D, And in that same year . Mongols under Genghis Khan , Swarmed over Iran , Destroying many cities and killing thousands of people . In the 1400's the Mongol leaders began fighting among themselves for power , And lost control of Iran . And the Iranian Safavid Dynasty became the rules of the country during the 1500's . The Safavid Dynasty was founded by Ismail I, Who claimed descent from Amiyr Mu'miniyn Ali . The Khalifa . He was regarded as A Saint by the Iranians and proclaimed himself Shah . Which governed Iran from 1502 -1722 A.D, And the establishment of the Shi'ite Doctrine .

So modern day Iranians are not Dark-Skinned . Woolly-Haired people of the otiginal seed . But rather a mixture of various diffrent Tribes , Such as the Greeks , Europeans , Romans , Mongols , Turks , And Russians .



One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

IP IP Logged
Syed S
 
Starter.
Starter.


Joined: 24 October 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 9
Quote Syed S Replybullet Posted: 28 October 2013 at 3:11am
Both are considered Arabs. Doesn't matter what's the skin color. We shouldn't judge a person from the skin color :)
IP IP Logged
Al Saadiqeen21
Male None
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 August 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 223
Quote Al Saadiqeen21 Replybullet Posted: 28 October 2013 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Syed S

Both are considered Arabs. Doesn't matter what's the skin color. We shouldn't judge a person from the skin color :)
 
 
Excuses doesn't change the facts , And if you think it doesn't matter ask any Muslims from Middle-East . So-called Middle-East that is . Don't believe me check it out if you dare to ....

One doesn't go to school let His / her's mind to die , They go to school so that their mind will come alive .

IP IP Logged
lateefah2000
 Islam
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 15 November 2013
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 16
Quote lateefah2000 Replybullet Posted: 20 November 2013 at 5:46pm
Yes i find that true.
IP IP Logged
<< Prev Page  of 2
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed herein contain positions and viewpoints that are not necessarily those of IslamiCity. This forum is offered to stimulate dialogue and discussion in our continuing mission of being an educational organization.
If there is any issue with any of the postings please email to icforum at islamicity.com or if you are a forum's member you can use the report button.

Note: The 99 names of Allah avatars are courtesy of www.arthafez.com

Advertisement:



Sponsored by:
Islamicity Membership Program:
IslamiCity Donation Program  http://www.islamicity.com/Donate
IslamiCity Arabic eLearning http://www.islamiCity.com/ArabAcademy
Complete Domain & Hosting Solutions www.icDomain.com
Home for Muslim Tunes www.icTunes.com
Islamic Video Collections www.islamiTV.com
IslamiCity Marriage Site www.icMarriage.com