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abuayisha

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Posted: 30 December 2012 at 8:27am

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/12/after-islamophobic-perspective.html

Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen's death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals.

"It's a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York," Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation.

What kind of perspective is Bloomberg referencing? If someone said "I shoved a Jew in front of a train because I hate Jews," would Bloomberg be touting drops in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals? Quite an insensitive comment, at the very least.

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Posted: 30 December 2012 at 5:45pm

Originally posted by abuayisha

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/12/after-islamophobic-perspective.html

Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen's death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals.

"It's a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York," Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation.

That is disgusting and sickening!!!

Not only the murder, but his reaction! "Keep it in perspective"???

An innocent man was cruelly murdered, because he was assumed to be Muslim. You are right, if the victim had been Jewish or even a black man or gay man killed by supremacists, he wouldn't been talking like that.

This is hatred of Muslims, pure and simple. Both the murder and his words were wrong and unacceptable and worthy of condemnation.

May God open his eyes, and may He be with the mourning family of the innocent man who was murdered.

Edited by TG12345 - 30 December 2012 at 5:45pm

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Posted: 31 December 2012 at 10:05am

You are being ridiculous. Michael Bloomberg doesn't hate Muslims. Try not to be a reactionary just because the rest of the lemmings are doing it.

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Posted: 31 December 2012 at 12:54pm

Originally posted by schmikbob

You are being ridiculous. Michael Bloomberg doesn't hate Muslims. Try not to be a reactionary just because the rest of the lemmings are doing it.

Again, I'm pretty sure that if the victim was Jewish or black or gay and he was killed for his identity he wouldn't ask that "people keep things in perspective".

I didn't hear that line coming out of the White House when one of their ambassadors was killed in Benghazi. After all, how many people die violently in that city on a daily basis? Can you imagine what would have happened if Obama advised the American people to "keep it in perspective"?

I don't get the whole 'lemming' and 'reactionary' terminology. Sounds like something that would come out of the Kremlin, like 2 decades ago. Big%20smile

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Posted: 01 January 2013 at 12:45pm

Let me explain it. Everyone likes to jump on board the condemnation and "He hates this or that" bandwagon in reaction to some 30 second sound bite by some politician. The Mayor's job is, among other things, to reassure the public. Perhaps that could have something to do with his comments. For you to call his comments "wrong and unacceptable and worthy of comdemnation" is ridiculous and make you sound like one of the lemmings running for the cliff. Does that clear things up?

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Posted: 01 January 2013 at 2:16pm

Originally posted by schmikbob

Let me explain it. Everyone likes to jump on board the condemnation and "He hates this or that" bandwagon in reaction to some 30 second sound bite by some politician. The Mayor's job is, among other things, to reassure the public. Perhaps that could have something to do with his comments. For you to call his comments "wrong and unacceptable and worthy of comdemnation" is ridiculous and make you sound like one of the lemmings running for the cliff. Does that clear things up?

If a person comments on a murder or some other tragedy by saying "keep things in perspective", regardless of who the victim or killer was, it is insensitive at the least. I don't believe he would have said the same thing if the victim belonged to some other categories of affiliation.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 at 7:49pm

Bloomberg Rationalizes Random Killing. But I Knew Sunando Sen

http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/12/29/bloomberg-rationalizes-random-killing-but-i-knew-sunando-sen

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Posted: 02 January 2013 at 6:55pm

Once again, Bloomberg did not "rationalize a random killing". That implies he tried to justify the killing which he absolutely did not do. What he tried to do is reassure the public. Insensitive is a far cry from " wrong and unacceptable and worthy of condemnation". If muslims were being murdered every day in the US because of their beliefs then you might have some argument. For now all you have is a hate crime that should be prosecuted as such. Don't try to turn it into a national assault on Islam.

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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3997	Topic: Islamophobic Hate Crime Posted: 30 December 2012 at 8:27am
	http://mondoweiss.net/2012/12/after-islamophobic-perspective.html Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen's death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals. "It's a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York," Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation. What kind of perspective is Bloomberg referencing? If someone said "I shoved a Jew in front of a train because I hate Jews," would Bloomberg be touting drops in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals? Quite an insensitive comment, at the very least.
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 30 December 2012 at 5:45pm
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* http://mondoweiss.net/2012/12/after-islamophobic-perspective.html Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Friday urged residents to keep Sen's death in perspective as he touted new historic lows in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals. "It's a very tragic case, but what we want to focus on today is the overall safety in New York," Bloomberg told reporters following a police academy graduation. What kind of perspective is Bloomberg referencing? If someone said "I shoved a Jew in front of a train because I hate Jews," would Bloomberg be touting drops in the city's annual homicide and shooting totals? Quite an insensitive comment, at the very least. That is disgusting and sickening!!! Not only the murder, but his reaction! "Keep it in perspective"??? An innocent man was cruelly murdered, because he was assumed to be Muslim. You are right, if the victim had been Jewish or even a black man or gay man killed by supremacists, he wouldn't been talking like that. This is hatred of Muslims, pure and simple. Both the murder and his words were wrong and unacceptable and worthy of condemnation. May God open his eyes, and may He be with the mourning family of the innocent man who was murdered. Edited by TG12345 - 30 December 2012 at 5:45pm
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 31 December 2012 at 10:05am
	You are being ridiculous. Michael Bloomberg doesn't hate Muslims. Try not to be a reactionary just because the rest of the lemmings are doing it.
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 31 December 2012 at 12:54pm
	*Originally posted by schmikbob* You are being ridiculous. Michael Bloomberg doesn't hate Muslims. Try not to be a reactionary just because the rest of the lemmings are doing it. Again, I'm pretty sure that if the victim was Jewish or black or gay and he was killed for his identity he wouldn't ask that "people keep things in perspective". I didn't hear that line coming out of the White House when one of their ambassadors was killed in Benghazi. After all, how many people die violently in that city on a daily basis? Can you imagine what would have happened if Obama advised the American people to "keep it in perspective"? I don't get the whole 'lemming' and 'reactionary' terminology. Sounds like something that would come out of the Kremlin, like 2 decades ago.
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 01 January 2013 at 12:45pm
	Let me explain it. Everyone likes to jump on board the condemnation and "He hates this or that" bandwagon in reaction to some 30 second sound bite by some politician. The Mayor's job is, among other things, to reassure the public. Perhaps that could have something to do with his comments. For you to call his comments "wrong and unacceptable and worthy of comdemnation" is ridiculous and make you sound like one of the lemmings running for the cliff. Does that clear things up?
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 01 January 2013 at 2:16pm
	*Originally posted by schmikbob* Let me explain it. Everyone likes to jump on board the condemnation and "He hates this or that" bandwagon in reaction to some 30 second sound bite by some politician. The Mayor's job is, among other things, to reassure the public. Perhaps that could have something to do with his comments. For you to call his comments "wrong and unacceptable and worthy of comdemnation" is ridiculous and make you sound like one of the lemmings running for the cliff. Does that clear things up? If a person comments on a murder or some other tragedy by saying "keep things in perspective", regardless of who the victim or killer was, it is insensitive at the least. I don't believe he would have said the same thing if the victim belonged to some other categories of affiliation.
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3997	Posted: 01 January 2013 at 7:49pm
	Bloomberg Rationalizes Random Killing. But I Knew Sunando Sen http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/12/29/bloomberg-rationalizes-random-killing-but-i-knew-sunando-sen
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 02 January 2013 at 6:55pm
	Once again, Bloomberg did not "rationalize a random killing". That implies he tried to justify the killing which he absolutely did not do. What he tried to do is reassure the public. Insensitive is a far cry from " wrong and unacceptable and worthy of condemnation". If muslims were being murdered every day in the US because of their beliefs then you might have some argument. For now all you have is a hate crime that should be prosecuted as such. Don't try to turn it into a national assault on Islam.
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