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Posted: 17 December 2012 at 5:02pm

Salaam Alaikum. Sorry for all these questions, but I have another one. I have heard many Muslims say that Adam was a prophet from God, in fact the very first prophet. I have read the story of Adam from an Islamic perspective from these sites, and heard it in various discussions with Muslims. These sites and all Muslims I know refer to him as a prophet.

http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=330:adam-pbuh

http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_adam.asp

The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. We all agree he and Eve sinned against God and we all agree that in spite of this, He did not stop providing for them and loving them, though He did cast them out of the Garden.

The following sites showed various passages in the Quran explaining the story of Adam, but I haven't seen one passage that says he was a prophet of God. My knowledge of the Quran is not very good so there is a very huge likelihood that it does say he was a prophet and I have not found or overlooked the verse that does.

Could you please show me ayahs or even authentic hadith that say he was prophet from God? Thanks in advance. Salaam.

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Posted: 17 December 2012 at 9:58pm

If you refer to one of my previous responses regarding the difference between prophets (Nabi) and messengers (Rasu'l) according to the Qur'an, it should become evident that a Rasu'l is sent to a particular people, whereas a Nabi is simply a person who receives divine guidance through any form of revelation. Keeping this and the fact that Adam was the first man, it should be evident that he was a prophet of God and not a messenger.

My opinion is also supported by some of the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh). In the more accepted compilations of the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh) there is a narrative in "Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal", in which Abu Hurairah (ra) asked the Prophet about Adam (pbuh). The Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have told Abu Hurairah (ra) that Adam (pbuh) was the first among the prophets of God.

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Posted: 18 December 2012 at 12:07am

Alaikum Salaam.

In the Qur'an I don't think Adam as mentioned as a Prophet per se. The Adam's prophethood is from hadith. But the Qur'an states he was a Khalifah. Nor it mentioned him as the first human. I inclined to believe that he was the first conscious human. The "Prophethood" title would be more fitting if there were humans already on this earth when his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today. Make sense?

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Posted: 18 December 2012 at 4:32am

Originally posted by nothing

Alaikum Salaam.

In the Qur'an I don't think Adam as mentioned as a Prophet per se. The Adam's prophethood is from hadith. But the Qur'an states he was a Khalifah. Nor it mentioned him as the first human. I inclined to believe that he was the first conscious human. The "Prophethood" title would be more fitting if there were humans already on this earth when his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today. Make sense?

Peace be upon you also. Thanks for this, in the Bible he is also not listed as a prophet but as the first person.

What do you mean by "his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today."?

Do you know why then Adam is referred to as a prophet by most Muslims? Which hadith say that?

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Posted: 18 December 2012 at 1:50pm

Originally posted by TG12345

The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences.

Quran didn't say God was searching for Adam !
http://quran-m.com/firas/en1/index.php/embracing-islam/255-the-beginning-of-creation-in-the-bible-and-in-the-holy-quran.html
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/adam_eve_downfall.htm

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Posted: 18 December 2012 at 7:55pm

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...

Originally posted by TG12345

Salaam Alaikum. Sorry for all these questions, but I have another one. I have heard many Muslims say that Adam was a prophet from God, in fact the very first prophet. I have read the story of Adam from an Islamic perspective from these sites, and heard it in various discussions with Muslims. These sites and all Muslims I know refer to him as a prophet.

http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=330:adam-pbuh

http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_adam.asp

The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. We all agree he and Eve sinned against God and we all agree that in spite of this, He did not stop providing for them and loving them, though He did cast them out of the Garden.

The following sites showed various passages in the Quran explaining the story of Adam, but I haven't seen one passage that says he was a prophet of God. My knowledge of the Quran is not very good so there is a very huge likelihood that it does say he was a prophet and I have not found or overlooked the verse that does.

Could you please show me ayahs or even authentic hadith that say he was prophet from God? Thanks in advance. Salaam.

Walaikum as-salaam.

The Quran does not literally say "Adam was a prophet". However, it does say that Adam (pbuh) was given "guidance" after the fall.

"But his Lord chose him (for His Grace): He turned to him, and gave him Guidance. He said: "Get ye down, both of you,- all together, from the Garden, with enmity one to another: but if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from Me, whosoever follows My Guidance, will not lose his way, nor fall into misery. "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."" (20:122-124)

Allah (swt) sent His guidance through his prophets. Obviously, with the fall of Adam and Eve, mankind began to spread on the earth. As such, guidance would have been needed.

Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Posted: 19 December 2012 at 5:11am

Originally posted by islamispeace

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...

Salaam Alaikum, islamispeace.

Did God according to Islam send guidance to people who were not prophets, or only to prophets? I am just curious about this.

I am assuming that you believe Adam was a prophet, correct?

Shukran.

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Posted: 20 December 2012 at 6:04pm

Salaam Alaikum. I have some more questions about the prophethood of Adam in Islam.

Are there hadith that say Adam was a prophet of God? Do we know when he prophesied, and who he prophesied to? Do we know what we taught?

Thanks so much! Smile

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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Topic: Question for Muslims about Adam Posted: 17 December 2012 at 5:02pm
	Salaam Alaikum. Sorry for all these questions, but I have another one. I have heard many Muslims say that Adam was a prophet from God, in fact the very first prophet. I have read the story of Adam from an Islamic perspective from these sites, and heard it in various discussions with Muslims. These sites and all Muslims I know refer to him as a prophet. http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=330:adam-pbuh http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_adam.asp The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. We all agree he and Eve sinned against God and we all agree that in spite of this, He did not stop providing for them and loving them, though He did cast them out of the Garden. The following sites showed various passages in the Quran explaining the story of Adam, but I haven't seen one passage that says he was a prophet of God. My knowledge of the Quran is not very good so there is a very huge likelihood that it does say he was a prophet and I have not found or overlooked the verse that does. Could you please show me ayahs or even authentic hadith that say he was prophet from God? Thanks in advance. Salaam.
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iec786 Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282	Posted: 17 December 2012 at 9:58pm
	If you refer to one of my previous responses regarding the difference between prophets (Nabi) and messengers (Rasu'l) according to the Qur'an, it should become evident that a Rasu'l is sent to a particular people, whereas a Nabi is simply a person who receives divine guidance through any form of revelation. Keeping this and the fact that Adam was the first man, it should be evident that he was a prophet of God and not a messenger. My opinion is also supported by some of the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh). In the more accepted compilations of the narratives ascribed to the Prophet (pbuh) there is a narrative in "Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal", in which Abu Hurairah (ra) asked the Prophet about Adam (pbuh). The Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have told Abu Hurairah (ra) that Adam (pbuh) was the first among the prophets of God.
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 360	Posted: 18 December 2012 at 12:07am
	Alaikum Salaam. In the Qur'an I don't think Adam as mentioned as a Prophet per se. The Adam's prophethood is from hadith. But the Qur'an states he was a Khalifah. Nor it mentioned him as the first human. I inclined to believe that he was the first conscious human. The "Prophethood" title would be more fitting if there were humans already on this earth when his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today. Make sense?
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 18 December 2012 at 4:32am
	*Originally posted by nothing* Alaikum Salaam. In the Qur'an I don't think Adam as mentioned as a Prophet per se. The Adam's prophethood is from hadith. But the Qur'an states he was a Khalifah. Nor it mentioned him as the first human. I inclined to believe that he was the first conscious human. The "Prophethood" title would be more fitting if there were humans already on this earth when his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today. Make sense? Peace be upon you also. Thanks for this, in the Bible he is also not listed as a prophet but as the first person. What do you mean by "his consciousness begins. His consciousness was the turning point that make us here today."? Do you know why then Adam is referred to as a prophet by most Muslims? Which hadith say that?
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docbro Newbie Joined: 10 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13	Posted: 18 December 2012 at 1:50pm
	*Originally posted by TG12345* The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. Quran didn't say God was searching for Adam ! http://quran-m.com/firas/en1/index.php/embracing-islam/255-the-beginning-of-creation-in-the-bible-and-in-the-holy-quran.html http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/adam_eve_downfall.htm Edited by docbro - 18 December 2012 at 1:51pm
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islamispeace Islam Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1417	Posted: 18 December 2012 at 7:55pm
	In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful... *Originally posted by TG12345* Salaam Alaikum. Sorry for all these questions, but I have another one. I have heard many Muslims say that Adam was a prophet from God, in fact the very first prophet. I have read the story of Adam from an Islamic perspective from these sites, and heard it in various discussions with Muslims. These sites and all Muslims I know refer to him as a prophet. http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=330:adam-pbuh http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_adam.asp The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. We all agree he and Eve sinned against God and we all agree that in spite of this, He did not stop providing for them and loving them, though He did cast them out of the Garden. The following sites showed various passages in the Quran explaining the story of Adam, but I haven't seen one passage that says he was a prophet of God. My knowledge of the Quran is not very good so there is a very huge likelihood that it does say he was a prophet and I have not found or overlooked the verse that does. Could you please show me ayahs or even authentic hadith that say he was prophet from God? Thanks in advance. Salaam. Walaikum as-salaam. The Quran does not literally say "Adam was a prophet". However, it does say that Adam (pbuh) was given "guidance" after the fall. "But his Lord chose him (for His Grace): He turned to him, and gave him Guidance. He said: "Get ye down, both of you,- all together, from the Garden, with enmity one to another: but if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from Me, whosoever follows My Guidance, will not lose his way, nor fall into misery. "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."" (20:122-124) Allah (swt) sent His guidance through his prophets. Obviously, with the fall of Adam and Eve, mankind began to spread on the earth. As such, guidance would have been needed.
	Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 19 December 2012 at 5:11am
	*Originally posted by islamispeace* In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful... *Originally posted by TG12345* Salaam Alaikum. Sorry for all these questions, but I have another one. I have heard many Muslims say that Adam was a prophet from God, in fact the very first prophet. I have read the story of Adam from an Islamic perspective from these sites, and heard it in various discussions with Muslims. These sites and all Muslims I know refer to him as a prophet. http://islam.worldofislam.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=330:adam-pbuh http://www.itsislam.net/articles/prophet_adam.asp The Biblical and Quranic story of Adam has many similarities and a few differences. We all agree he and Eve sinned against God and we all agree that in spite of this, He did not stop providing for them and loving them, though He did cast them out of the Garden. The following sites showed various passages in the Quran explaining the story of Adam, but I haven't seen one passage that says he was a prophet of God. My knowledge of the Quran is not very good so there is a very huge likelihood that it does say he was a prophet and I have not found or overlooked the verse that does. Could you please show me ayahs or even authentic hadith that say he was prophet from God? Thanks in advance. Salaam. Walaikum as-salaam. The Quran does not literally say "Adam was a prophet". However, it does say that Adam (pbuh) was given "guidance" after the fall. "But his Lord chose him (for His Grace): He turned to him, and gave him Guidance. He said: "Get ye down, both of you,- all together, from the Garden, with enmity one to another: but if, as is sure, there comes to you Guidance from Me, whosoever follows My Guidance, will not lose his way, nor fall into misery. "But whosoever turns away from My Message, verily for him is a life narrowed down, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Judgment."" (20:122-124) Allah (swt) sent His guidance through his prophets. Obviously, with the fall of Adam and Eve, mankind began to spread on the earth. As such, guidance would have been needed. Salaam Alaikum, islamispeace. Did God according to Islam send guidance to people who were not prophets, or only to prophets? I am just curious about this. I am assuming that you believe Adam was a prophet, correct? Shukran.
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 20 December 2012 at 6:04pm
	Salaam Alaikum. I have some more questions about the prophethood of Adam in Islam. Are there hadith that say Adam was a prophet of God? Do we know when he prophesied, and who he prophesied to? Do we know what we taught? Thanks so much!
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