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Nausheen
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Posted: 20 December 2012 at 12:17am

My understanding is that a Hadith is Daif or weak because the number of narrators on its chain of transmission are much fewer as compared to a sahih hadith or authentic hadith. Also a sahih hadith can even have multiple chains of transmission - which is not the case with a daif hadith. However this does not mean a particular daif hadith is 'weak' in its reliability. So please be careful when you accept or reject anything from the hadith.

Just like HaafidhulQuran, we have hadith scholars who learn by heart not just the hadith alone but also its chain of transmission back to prophet (pbuh).

Another good source of hadith is RiyadusSaliheen by imam Nawawi. This book is in two volumes, and contains relevant quranic verses along with the hadith (most of which are authentic)

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Posted: 20 December 2012 at 4:32am

Salaam Alaikum islamispeace, Nausheen, friendship, honeto and nothing. Thank you for the explanations.

It seems to me like Bukhari and Muslim are the most authentic hadith, and Bukhari compiled his collections after very many years of careful research. Sounds like one cannot be a Muslim without the hadith, but they are not above the Quran.

Would that be correct?

Shukran.

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Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:20pm

Jazakallah,
may Allah increase us in knolwdge, Ameen.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:35pm

Originally posted by TG12345

Salaam Alaikum islamispeace, Nausheen, friendship, honeto and nothing. Thank you for the explanations. It seems to me like Bukhari and Muslim are the most authentic hadith, and Bukhari compiled his collections after very many years of careful research. Sounds like one cannot be a Muslim without the hadith, but they are not above the Quran.Would that be correct?Shukran.

Waalaikum assalam,

Yes, that would be correct. Alhamdulillah.

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:47pm

Originally posted by Nausheen

My understanding is that a Hadith is Daif or weak because the number of narrators on its chain of transmission are much fewer as compared to a sahih hadith or authentic hadith. Also a sahih hadith can even have multiple chains of transmission - which is not the case with a daif hadith. However this does not mean a particular daif hadith is 'weak' in its reliability. So please be careful when you accept or reject anything from the hadith.

Just like HaafidhulQuran, we have hadith scholars who learn by heart not just the hadith alone but also its chain of transmission back to prophet (pbuh).

Another good source of hadith is RiyadusSaliheen by imam Nawawi. This book is in two volumes, and contains relevant quranic verses along with the hadith (most of which are authentic)

Assalam Alykum Nausheen,
Jazakallah,
may Allah increase us in knolwdge, Ameen.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:48pm

W'salam,
That seems correct, may Allah guide us all, Ameen.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 22 December 2012 at 7:52am

Walakum Assalam brothers n sister, JazakALLAH Khair for having a valueble disscusion. May Allah increase our Knowledge and keep us on the path of truth and proesperity. Ameen

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Posted: 24 December 2012 at 7:35pm

Assalamualaikum Hasan and M.Sumair,

Ameen to your duas.

Waiyyakum

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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 20 December 2012 at 12:17am
	My understanding is that a Hadith is Daif or weak because the number of narrators on its chain of transmission are much fewer as compared to a sahih hadith or authentic hadith. Also a sahih hadith can even have multiple chains of transmission - which is not the case with a daif hadith. However this does not mean a particular daif hadith is 'weak' in its reliability. So please be careful when you accept or reject anything from the hadith. Just like HaafidhulQuran, we have hadith scholars who learn by heart not just the hadith alone but also its chain of transmission back to prophet (pbuh). Another good source of hadith is RiyadusSaliheen by imam Nawawi. This book is in two volumes, and contains relevant quranic verses along with the hadith (most of which are authentic)
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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TG12345 Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 16 December 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 280	Posted: 20 December 2012 at 4:32am
	Salaam Alaikum islamispeace, Nausheen, friendship, honeto and nothing. Thank you for the explanations. It seems to me like Bukhari and Muslim are the most authentic hadith, and Bukhari compiled his collections after very many years of careful research. Sounds like one cannot be a Muslim without the hadith, but they are not above the Quran. Would that be correct? Shukran.
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:20pm
	Jazakallah, may Allah increase us in knolwdge, Ameen. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:35pm
	*Originally posted by TG12345* Salaam Alaikum islamispeace, Nausheen, friendship, honeto and nothing. Thank you for the explanations. It seems to me like Bukhari and Muslim are the most authentic hadith, and Bukhari compiled his collections after very many years of careful research. Sounds like one cannot be a Muslim without the hadith, but they are not above the Quran.Would that be correct?Shukran. Waalaikum assalam, Yes, that would be correct. Alhamdulillah.
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:47pm
	*Originally posted by Nausheen* My understanding is that a Hadith is Daif or weak because the number of narrators on its chain of transmission are much fewer as compared to a sahih hadith or authentic hadith. Also a sahih hadith can even have multiple chains of transmission - which is not the case with a daif hadith. However this does not mean a particular daif hadith is 'weak' in its reliability. So please be careful when you accept or reject anything from the hadith. Just like HaafidhulQuran, we have hadith scholars who learn by heart not just the hadith alone but also its chain of transmission back to prophet (pbuh). Another good source of hadith is RiyadusSaliheen by imam Nawawi. This book is in two volumes, and contains relevant quranic verses along with the hadith (most of which are authentic) Assalam Alykum Nausheen, Jazakallah, may Allah increase us in knolwdge, Ameen. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:48pm
	*Originally posted by TG12345* Salaam Alaikum islamispeace, Nausheen, friendship, honeto and nothing. Thank you for the explanations. It seems to me like Bukhari and Muslim are the most authentic hadith, and Bukhari compiled his collections after very many years of careful research. Sounds like one cannot be a Muslim without the hadith, but they are not above the Quran.Would that be correct?Shukran. W'salam, That seems correct, may Allah guide us all, Ameen. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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m.sumair Male Islam Groupie Joined: 28 November 2011 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 40	Posted: 22 December 2012 at 7:52am
	Walakum Assalam brothers n sister, JazakALLAH Khair for having a valueble disscusion. May Allah increase our Knowledge and keep us on the path of truth and proesperity. Ameen
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 24 December 2012 at 7:35pm
	Assalamualaikum Hasan and M.Sumair, Ameen to your duas. Waiyyakum
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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