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Originally posted by Caringheart

I follow the new testament... the new covenant scriptures and not the old...
I gather you're not referring to the apocalyptic passages in Gospel and detailed in the Book of Revelation.
God tells us in the scriptures that He 'will do a new thing' and this new thing is, He sends to us Jesus, to lead us to Him through Love.
That's another thing I don't understand: how an infallible all-knowing God might find Himself in the rather awkward situation of wanting to retract or amend anything. Ever. For Christians, what is it that makes blood-curdling wrathfulness best for one ancient desert society but not for another? For Muslims, why the need to abrogate or clarify what was revealed only a few years earlier, through the very same Prophet? Human laws often adapt in response to unanticipated events, but why would divine law need to evolve in the same way? 

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nospam001 Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 02 October 2012 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 150	Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:30pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* I follow the new testament... the new covenant scriptures and not the old... I gather you're not referring to the apocalyptic passages in Gospel and detailed in the Book of Revelation. God tells us in the scriptures that He 'will do a new thing' and this new thing is, He sends to us Jesus, to lead us to Him through Love. That's another thing I don't understand: how an infallible all-knowing God might find Himself in the rather awkward situation of wanting to retract or amend anything. Ever. For Christians, what is it that makes blood-curdling wrathfulness best for one ancient desert society but not for another? For Muslims, why the need to abrogate or clarify what was revealed only a few years earlier, through the very same Prophet? Human laws often adapt in response to unanticipated events, but why would divine law need to evolve in the same way?
	God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 874	Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:51pm
	Assalamu alaika Semar. I just saw your thread. You are saying so because you want to play and ridicule Muhammad. Muhammad at the age of 15 years participated in the battle of Buath where he collected arrows. He said later: Whenever I remember the Buath war, I regret participating and collecting arrows. Muhammad never held a sword, but only a knife he slaughtered his camels during the pilgrimage. Umar, Abubakar never fought with a sword in any battle. In the battle of Badr and other battles Ali depended Islam which is a simplified written and oral law of Moses. If the children of Israel fought, Muhammad must do so. The battles fought by them were on necessity. They ran away to Madina and were pursued. What do you want them to do? Please let us me matured and tell the truth. Friendship.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 19 December 2012 at 9:26pm
	*Originally posted by nospam001* *Originally posted by Caringheart* I follow the new testament... the new covenant scriptures and not the old... I gather you're not referring to the apocalyptic passages in Gospel and detailed in the Book of Revelation. God tells us in the scriptures that He 'will do a new thing' and this new thing is, He sends to us Jesus, to lead us to Him through Love. That's another thing I don't understand: how an infallible all-knowing God might find Himself in the rather awkward situation of wanting to retract or amend anything. Ever. For Christians, what is it that makes blood-curdling wrathfulness best for one ancient desert society but not for another? For Muslims, why the need to abrogate or clarify what was revealed only a few years earlier, through the very same Prophet? Human laws often adapt in response to unanticipated events, but why would divine law need to evolve in the same way? Hi nospam, Good points. My understanding of revelation is that it will be humans who are wreaking havoc and destruction upon one another, not God. I will probably have to go back to reading Revelation again.
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Idil Female Islam Groupie Joined: 12 September 2012 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 44	Posted: 25 December 2012 at 2:51pm
	This was a very sad case and cannot comprehend how someone would even target children the age of 6-7. It is time though for America to rethink its gun laws. Over here in the UK, even the police don`t have a gun. When individuals can get ease access to gun sometimes the unthinkable takes place and for this reason we should most definitely limit the ease of access.
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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 16 January 2013 at 5:36am
	I hope Obama will succeed with his decree.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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