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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 11:35am

Assalamu alaikum/Peace be upon you,

Another bad news.

27 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

http://gma.yahoo.com/breaking-conn-school-district-locked-down-shooting-report-151955384--abc-news-topstories.html

Perhaps we might need to discus gun control more seriously. We limit country to have a lethal weapon (WMD), why we are not do the same to people. Screening ... it doesn't work, I am, can be a very good person today, but no guaranty tomorrow I am not crazy.

In my home country there, the life is much more difficult, so there are much more angry/frustrated people, but because they don't have access to lethal weapon, they only have knife, so something like this never happen there. May be just a few people die caused by them, they already stopped by other people, not even need police/SWAT to stop them.

Again GUN CONTROL IS THE SOLUTION.

Edited by semar - 14 December 2012 at 3:30pm

Salam/Peace,
Semar
The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full"
"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 12:38pm

Assalamu alaikum.

It is indeed unfortunate! However it could never have been caused by Islamists! Muhammad Rasulullah disallowed the manufacture of arms.

Friendship.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 3:37pm

Originally posted by Friendship

Assalamu alaikum.

It is indeed unfortunate! However it could never have been caused by Islamists! Muhammad Rasulullah disallowed the manufacture of arms.

Friendship.

Salam Frienship,

Prophet Muhammad rasulullah pbuh had a sword, also Omar, Abu Bakr, Ali etc, they went to war, if there didn't have arms, what they used to defend themselves, magic flying carpet :)-

Edited by semar - 14 December 2012 at 3:40pm

Salam/Peace,
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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 5:59pm

My response;

"we will have to take meaningful action..." - Pres. Obama, 12/14/2012

Do people not see that we need a return to God as the guiding factor in our society, and that is the only 'meaningful action' that will make a difference?

We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans.

Edited by Caringheart - 14 December 2012 at 6:03pm

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:42pm

Are you really suggesting that a lack of faith in God created this horror?

Is this based on information or just another knee jerk.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:56pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans.

Are you calling for a theocracy? And who's faith should guide our leaders? Indeed a slippery slope in a democracy. Also, I'm sure some would argue that your own ability as a human, and your "faith" they are one in the same.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:58pm

Originally posted by schmikbob

Are you really suggesting that a lack of faith in God created this horror?

Is this based on information or just another knee jerk.

It means that I see that evil is widely abroad in the world and there is only one thing that can truly combat evil.

Peace,
CH

Edited by Caringheart - 14 December 2012 at 7:17pm

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Posted: 14 December 2012 at 7:15pm

Originally posted by abuayisha

Originally posted by Caringheart

We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans.

Our leaders simply need to point us all to something higher than ourselves.. to something higher than themselves.

Change must come from the people themselves and leaders need to encourage change. When society goes off course, and positive change is needed, the top needs to use its influence, not power, to guide the people towards change. Change must be encouraged. No amount of making laws will change a society if the people are not changed. Look at Syria trying to force its will. The people want a change.

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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1231	Topic: 27 People Dead, Mostly Children Posted: 14 December 2012 at 11:35am
	Assalamu alaikum/Peace be upon you, Another bad news. 27 People Dead, Mostly Children, at Connecticut Elementary School Shooting http://gma.yahoo.com/breaking-conn-school-district-locked-down-shooting-report-151955384--abc-news-topstories.html Perhaps we might need to discus gun control more seriously. We limit country to have a lethal weapon (WMD), why we are not do the same to people. Screening ... it doesn't work, I am, can be a very good person today, but no guaranty tomorrow I am not crazy. In my home country there, the life is much more difficult, so there are much more angry/frustrated people, but because they don't have access to lethal weapon, they only have knife, so something like this never happen there. May be just a few people die caused by them, they already stopped by other people, not even need police/SWAT to stop them. Again GUN CONTROL IS THE SOLUTION. Edited by semar - 14 December 2012 at 3:30pm
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 874	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 12:38pm
	Assalamu alaikum. It is indeed unfortunate! However it could never have been caused by Islamists! Muhammad Rasulullah disallowed the manufacture of arms. Friendship.
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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1231	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 3:37pm
	*Originally posted by Friendship* Assalamu alaikum. It is indeed unfortunate! However it could never have been caused by Islamists! Muhammad Rasulullah disallowed the manufacture of arms. Friendship. Salam Frienship, Prophet Muhammad rasulullah pbuh had a sword, also Omar, Abu Bakr, Ali etc, they went to war, if there didn't have arms, what they used to defend themselves, magic flying carpet :)- Edited by semar - 14 December 2012 at 3:40pm
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 5:59pm
	My response; "we will have to take meaningful action..." - Pres. Obama, 12/14/2012 Do people not see that we need a return to God as the guiding factor in our society, and that is the only 'meaningful action' that will make a difference? We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans. Edited by Caringheart - 14 December 2012 at 6:03pm
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:42pm
	Are you really suggesting that a lack of faith in God created this horror? Is this based on information or just another knee jerk.
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3993	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:56pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans. Are you calling for a theocracy? And who's faith should guide our leaders? Indeed a slippery slope in a democracy. Also, I'm sure some would argue that your own ability as a human, and your "faith" they are one in the same.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 6:58pm
	*Originally posted by schmikbob* Are you really suggesting that a lack of faith in God created this horror? Is this based on information or just another knee jerk. It means that I see that evil is widely abroad in the world and there is only one thing that can truly combat evil. Peace, CH Edited by Caringheart - 14 December 2012 at 7:17pm
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 14 December 2012 at 7:15pm
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* *Originally posted by Caringheart* We need leaders who will put forth a return to faith and stop putting faith in our own abilities as humans. Are you calling for a theocracy? And who's faith should guide our leaders? Indeed a slippery slope in a democracy. Also, I'm sure some would argue that your own ability as a human, and your "faith" they are one in the same. Our leaders simply need to point us all to something higher than ourselves.. to something higher than themselves. Change must come from the people themselves and leaders need to encourage change. When society goes off course, and positive change is needed, the top needs to use its influence, not power, to guide the people towards change. Change must be encouraged. No amount of making laws will change a society if the people are not changed. Look at Syria trying to force its will. The people want a change.
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