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Topic: A question about Jesus (pbuh)
Posted: 09 December 2012 at 7:04pm

Dear Christians,

Is it in your beliefs that the first soul God created was that of Jesus (pbuh)?
Could you please give any references to this.

thank you.

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Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Posted: 09 December 2012 at 7:19pm

Greetings Nausheen,

It is in my understanding that the first man created by God, and that man having a soul, although it is not actually discussed this way, was Adam.
'God breathed life into him', and to me this means the flesh created by God was given a soul, and it is this that gives us this 'inner knowing' of the One who created us.

Salaam,
Caringheart

Edited by Caringheart - 09 December 2012 at 7:21pm

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Posted: 10 December 2012 at 1:03pm

Caringheart,
did you just dodge the question? Was Jesus the first one God created? Yes or no, and how you came to your answer?
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 10 December 2012 at 1:05pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 10 December 2012 at 4:20pm

Hasan,
Ask Nausheen if she feels that I answered her question or not.
Peace.

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Posted: 11 December 2012 at 9:09am

Jesus, spiritually, was never created. He eternally is generated by the Father, as the Father (God's nerve centre) has a Wisdom so powerful and an ability to project Himself being everywhere and totally able to concentrate Himself on any given point and not just the Throne of Heaven that this Wisdom is personified. God is one, single, infinite disembodied mind, but has three poonts of consciousness. The only part of Jesus which is created is His body, concieved by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb, wrapping God's Wisdom in flesh. Jesus as a person was never created. He has always existed.

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Posted: 13 December 2012 at 12:16am

Originally posted by Caringheart

Greetings Nausheen,It is in my understanding that the first man created by God, and that man having a soul, although it is not actually discussed this way, was Adam.'God breathed life into him', and to me this means the flesh created by God was given a soul, and it is this that gives us this 'inner knowing' of the One who created us.Salaam,Caringheart

Greetings Caringheart,

I understand that in your belief the first man into whom soul was breathed in was Adam(pbuh).
However, my question is : whose soul was the first to be created, Jesus (pbuh) or Adam (pbuh).

thank you.

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Posted: 13 December 2012 at 12:18am

Originally posted by Salaam_Erin

Jesus, spiritually, was never created. He eternally is generated by the Father, as the Father (God's nerve centre) has a Wisdom so powerful and an ability to project Himself being everywhere and totally able to concentrate Himself on any given point and not just the Throne of Heaven that this Wisdom is personified. God is one, single, infinite disembodied mind, but has three poonts of consciousness. The only part of Jesus which is created is His body, concieved by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb, wrapping God's Wisdom in flesh. Jesus as a person was never created. He has always existed.

Thank you Salaam Erin,

May I ask your denomination in Christianity.
I just want to know which christian sect carries this belief.

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Posted: 13 December 2012 at 10:58am

Greetings Nausheen,

I guess I never gave thought to a soul being 'created'... only life that is created... flesh. So I don't have an answer for that question.
Soul is of a spiritual domain, and beyond my comprehension as a mere human, so I don't imagine I will have an answer until I meet my Maker. Smile

Salaam,
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Topic: A question about Jesus (pbuh) Posted: 09 December 2012 at 7:04pm
	Dear Christians, Is it in your beliefs that the first soul God created was that of Jesus (pbuh)? Could you please give any references to this. thank you.
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 09 December 2012 at 7:19pm
	Greetings Nausheen, It is in my understanding that the first man created by God, and that man having a soul, although it is not actually discussed this way, was Adam. 'God breathed life into him', and to me this means the flesh created by God was given a soul, and it is this that gives us this 'inner knowing' of the One who created us. Salaam, Caringheart Edited by Caringheart - 09 December 2012 at 7:21pm
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 10 December 2012 at 1:03pm
	Caringheart, did you just dodge the question? Was Jesus the first one God created? Yes or no, and how you came to your answer? Hasan Edited by honeto - 10 December 2012 at 1:05pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 10 December 2012 at 4:20pm
	Hasan, Ask Nausheen if she feels that I answered her question or not. Peace.
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Salaam_Erin Male Christian Groupie Joined: 30 October 2012 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Posted: 11 December 2012 at 9:09am
	Jesus, spiritually, was never created. He eternally is generated by the Father, as the Father (God's nerve centre) has a Wisdom so powerful and an ability to project Himself being everywhere and totally able to concentrate Himself on any given point and not just the Throne of Heaven that this Wisdom is personified. God is one, single, infinite disembodied mind, but has three poonts of consciousness. The only part of Jesus which is created is His body, concieved by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb, wrapping God's Wisdom in flesh. Jesus as a person was never created. He has always existed.
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 13 December 2012 at 12:16am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* Greetings Nausheen,It is in my understanding that the first man created by God, and that man having a soul, although it is not actually discussed this way, was Adam.'God breathed life into him', and to me this means the flesh created by God was given a soul, and it is this that gives us this 'inner knowing' of the One who created us.Salaam,Caringheart Greetings Caringheart, I understand that in your belief the first man into whom soul was breathed in was Adam(pbuh). However, my question is : whose soul was the first to be created, Jesus (pbuh) or Adam (pbuh). thank you.
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 13 December 2012 at 12:18am
	*Originally posted by Salaam_Erin* Jesus, spiritually, was never created. He eternally is generated by the Father, as the Father (God's nerve centre) has a Wisdom so powerful and an ability to project Himself being everywhere and totally able to concentrate Himself on any given point and not just the Throne of Heaven that this Wisdom is personified. God is one, single, infinite disembodied mind, but has three poonts of consciousness. The only part of Jesus which is created is His body, concieved by the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb, wrapping God's Wisdom in flesh. Jesus as a person was never created. He has always existed. Thank you Salaam Erin, May I ask your denomination in Christianity. I just want to know which christian sect carries this belief.
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 13 December 2012 at 10:58am
	Greetings Nausheen, I guess I never gave thought to a soul being 'created'... only life that is created... flesh. So I don't have an answer for that question. Soul is of a spiritual domain, and beyond my comprehension as a mere human, so I don't imagine I will have an answer until I meet my Maker. Salaam, Caringheart
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