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Caringheart

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Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:23pm

How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not?

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Posted: 10 December 2012 at 5:00pm

No we can not do that with certainty. There are too many conditions to be God devotees, where it is maybe acceptable to one party and condemned by the other.

I am with my short comings tend to accept anyone easily, without using well known tools to judge.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 at 1:34pm

only the person himself and God knows that.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 at 3:01pm

Hey!

Greetings iec,
You have been gone a long time. How was Hajj?

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Posted: 17 December 2012 at 2:53pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not?

Caringheart,
by the level of their devotion to fulfill the word of God. Please not that I wrote "to fulfill the word of God. So every thing that is claimed to be word of God is not so unless proven to the intellect God has given us. One of the main qualities of God's word is it's ability to not contradict itself. If it does, it is not, if it does not, it is.
Then following it inward and outward to the best will speak for itself.

Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:44pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not?

When one is a true man of Allah along with being knowledgeable and pious he is humble, easy-going, soft in manners and generally treats mankind with love.
For one whose knowledge has corrupted his heart is haughty, harsh in speech and manners and often shows hate towards particular groups of people.

This is just from personal experience, don't have any measuring scale that knows the secrets of hearts.

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Topic: open discussion Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:23pm
	How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not?
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 360	Posted: 10 December 2012 at 5:00pm
	No we can not do that with certainty. There are too many conditions to be God devotees, where it is maybe acceptable to one party and condemned by the other. I am with my short comings tend to accept anyone easily, without using well known tools to judge.
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iec786 Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282	Posted: 15 December 2012 at 1:34pm
	only the person himself and God knows that.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 16 December 2012 at 3:01pm
	Hey! Greetings iec, You have been gone a long time. How was Hajj?
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 17 December 2012 at 2:53pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not? Caringheart, by the level of their devotion to fulfill the word of God. Please not that I wrote "to fulfill the word of God. So every thing that is claimed to be word of God is not so unless proven to the intellect God has given us. One of the main qualities of God's word is it's ability to not contradict itself. If it does, it is not, if it does not, it is. Then following it inward and outward to the best will speak for itself. Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Nausheen Female Islam Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146	Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:44pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* How do you determine, or define, whether a person is devoted to God, or not? When one is a true man of Allah along with being knowledgeable and pious he is humble, easy-going, soft in manners and generally treats mankind with love. For one whose knowledge has corrupted his heart is haughty, harsh in speech and manners and often shows hate towards particular groups of people. This is just from personal experience, don't have any measuring scale that knows the secrets of hearts.
	Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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