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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:29pm

come and speak about gaza

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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:30pm

gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters

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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 9:04am

It is a shame that all of us see aggression and oppression in Gaza and other places but we cannot do anything to stop it. The silence is deafening. As if our lips are sealed, our hands are tied. We are unable to raise our concern and voice against an open aggression against people who happen to be our fellow humans let alone our brothers in Islam.
Our (US)government is helpless to openly speak up against such unjustified killings and destruction of one people by another. Everyone around the globe (except our ordinary folks who believe in whatever they are told) know who controls our leaders. The leaders know what is right and what is wrong, but they are helpless as they are controlled by Israelis and serve their interests. Since Nixon every president is scared to speak the truth against Israel because of fear of loosing their seat or getting blackmailed to a disgraceful exit. Obviously they choose their seat and job by glorifying those who control their fate. Every man and woman of knowledge knows that.

One day the world will judge them for their actions and in-actions. They will not be glorified for supporting the aggression and oppression at the end but for standing up against it, even if that put them in risk of being kicked out of power. I hope they realize that the real glory comes by standing up against oppression does not matter how powerful the aggressor is.
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 18 November 2012 at 9:23am

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 18 November 2012 at 6:03pm

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24306

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Posted: 29 November 2012 at 2:38pm

Caringheart,
it is responsibility of all humanity to address crises like Gaza.
Caringheart you are scared to comment anything against Israel, these Israelis are more fair than you:

This link does not seem to work, try typing words: "Cleansing Gaza - Israel/Palestine" in Youtube search.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_997988&feature=iv&list=PL0F3E4174CED2859C&src_vid=cKHaowFEOsw

Hasan

Edited by honeto - 29 November 2012 at 3:26pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 02 December 2012 at 3:36am

Originally posted by whitelion553

gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters

It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think?

If someone thinks all Israelis should disappear, he or she is no better than those Israelis who think all Palestinians should disappear.

A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt

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Posted: 02 December 2012 at 5:58pm

Originally posted by Matt Browne

It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think?

So whatever the remaining land that is not called "Israel" today still considered shared property? Or which one are you referring to?

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Posted: 03 December 2012 at 1:40pm

Originally posted by Matt Browne

Originally posted by whitelion553

gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters

It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think? If someone thinks all Israelis should disappear, he or she is no better than those Israelis who think all Palestinians should disappear.

Of course it belongs to Palestinian state, in which Jews can live as lived before, Christians the same way.
Most of the Jews that came to the area after forming of state of Israel were actually came from abroad. After the break up of Soviet Union thousands of Jews (many were not even Jews anymore) were given instant citizenship upon arrival while those Palestinians who have lived there for generations could not return to their homeland after being force out. What kind of standards are that?
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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whitelion553 Senior Member Joined: 17 November 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 133	Topic: gaza Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:29pm
	come and speak about gaza
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whitelion553 Senior Member Joined: 17 November 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 133	Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:30pm
	gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 18 November 2012 at 9:04am
	It is a shame that all of us see aggression and oppression in Gaza and other places but we cannot do anything to stop it. The silence is deafening. As if our lips are sealed, our hands are tied. We are unable to raise our concern and voice against an open aggression against people who happen to be our fellow humans let alone our brothers in Islam. Our (US)government is helpless to openly speak up against such unjustified killings and destruction of one people by another. Everyone around the globe (except our ordinary folks who believe in whatever they are told) know who controls our leaders. The leaders know what is right and what is wrong, but they are helpless as they are controlled by Israelis and serve their interests. Since Nixon every president is scared to speak the truth against Israel because of fear of loosing their seat or getting blackmailed to a disgraceful exit. Obviously they choose their seat and job by glorifying those who control their fate. Every man and woman of knowledge knows that. One day the world will judge them for their actions and in-actions. They will not be glorified for supporting the aggression and oppression at the end but for standing up against it, even if that put them in risk of being kicked out of power. I hope they realize that the real glory comes by standing up against oppression does not matter how powerful the aggressor is. Hasan Edited by honeto - 18 November 2012 at 9:23am
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 18 November 2012 at 6:03pm
	http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24306
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 29 November 2012 at 2:38pm
	Caringheart, it is responsibility of all humanity to address crises like Gaza. Caringheart you are scared to comment anything against Israel, these Israelis are more fair than you: This link does not seem to work, try typing words: "Cleansing Gaza - Israel/Palestine" in Youtube search. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_997988&feature=iv&list=PL0F3E4174CED2859C&src_vid=cKHaowFEOsw Hasan Edited by honeto - 29 November 2012 at 3:26pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 02 December 2012 at 3:36am
	*Originally posted by whitelion553* gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think? If someone thinks all Israelis should disappear, he or she is no better than those Israelis who think all Palestinians should disappear.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 360	Posted: 02 December 2012 at 5:58pm
	*Originally posted by Matt Browne* It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think? So whatever the remaining land that is not called "Israel" today still considered shared property? Or which one are you referring to?
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 03 December 2012 at 1:40pm
	*Originally posted by Matt Browne* *Originally posted by whitelion553* gaza and palestine is belong to all muslems and we must be backer of our brothers and sisters It belongs to both Israelis and Palestinians, don't you think? If someone thinks all Israelis should disappear, he or she is no better than those Israelis who think all Palestinians should disappear. Of course it belongs to Palestinian state, in which Jews can live as lived before, Christians the same way. Most of the Jews that came to the area after forming of state of Israel were actually came from abroad. After the break up of Soviet Union thousands of Jews (many were not even Jews anymore) were given instant citizenship upon arrival while those Palestinians who have lived there for generations could not return to their homeland after being force out. What kind of standards are that? Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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