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Posted: 12 November 2012 at 2:30am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

As'alaamu Alaikkum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

2) Why was the Holy Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)?

The answer to this question can be found in the Holy Qur'an in the 18th Chapter entitled 'Al Kahf' or The Cave.

Sahih International

[All] praise is [due] to Allah , who has sent down upon His Servant the Book and has not made therein any deviance.

[He has made it] straight, to warn of severe punishment from Him and to give good tidings to the believers who do righteous deeds that they will have a good reward

In which they will remain forever

And to warn those who say, " Allah has taken a son."

They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grave is the word that comes out of their mouths; they speak not except a lie. 18:1-5

If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book before thee. Surah 10.94

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:20am

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3) What is Islam?
Islam’ stands for ‘Submission’ or ‘Peace’. In a religious context, it implies the peace that reaches out to one when one completely submits oneself to the will of Almighty God. This is achieved only when the individual acts in accordance with the direction of his Creator in all spheres of life.
http://www.nicheoftruth.org/

Edited by Abu Loren - 16 November 2012 at 1:35am

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:21am

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Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:52am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

You know what? I've changed my mind I'm not going to apologise any more. Those terms are in the Holy Qur'an and I am happy to use it against people who do not believe in Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala. People who are hurt by it then tough, grow up and be a man.

It looks like there's only 3 people defending Islam on this forum from the crusading Christians. Myself, Beebok and Mahdi the Seeker.

Perhaps you may what to defer "defending Islam" to the other three for a while.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 at 1:46am

Originally posted by Caringheart

Originally posted by Abu Loren

Caringheart you really are an obnoxious person if I were to meet you in real life I think I would punch you in the face!

Abu,

and all of your outspoken beliefs on the faith of others are never to be construed as obnoxious?
How about simple free speech?
You have no problem stating your beliefs, and who has threatened you for them?

CH

Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face."

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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 9:45am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face."

Salam Abu,

You should practice the principle in your writing. You should nice to everyone regarding thir believe, by choosing the nice word.

Salam/Peace,
Semar
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"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

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Posted: 17 November 2012 at 10:05am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face.

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face."

I believe you. Thank you. Humor is not always easy to discern on the internet. We grow in understanding.

Salaam,
CH

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Posted: 20 November 2012 at 8:11pm

As'alaamu Alaikkum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatuhu

4) How can you say that the God of the Christians and Jews is the God of the Qur'an?

Muhsin Khan

Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him) to the Jews and Christians, "Dispute you with us about Allah while He is our Lord and your Lord? And we are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. And we are sincere to Him in worship and obedience (i.e. we worship Him Alone and none else, and we obey His Orders)." 2:139

So if they dispute with you (Muhammad SAW) say: "I have submitted myself to Allah (in Islam), and (so have) those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and to those who are illiterates (Arab pagans): "Do you (also) submit yourselves (to Allah in Islam)?" If they do, they are rightly guided; but if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message; and Allah is All-Seer of (His ) slaves. 3:20

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Experiential Senior Member Joined: 23 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 265	Posted: 12 November 2012 at 2:30am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* As'alaamu Alaikkum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu 2) Why was the Holy Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? The answer to this question can be found in the Holy Qur'an in the 18th Chapter entitled 'Al Kahf' or The Cave. Sahih International [All] praise is [due] to Allah , who has sent down upon His Servant the Book and has not made therein any deviance. [He has made it] straight, to warn of severe punishment from Him and to give good tidings to the believers who do righteous deeds that they will have a good reward In which they will remain forever And to warn those who say, " Allah has taken a son." They have no knowledge of it, nor had their fathers. Grave is the word that comes out of their mouths; they speak not except a lie. 18:1-5 If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book before thee. Surah 10.94
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:20am
	As'alaamu Alaikkum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu 3) What is Islam? Islam’ stands for ‘Submission’ or ‘Peace’. In a religious context, it implies the peace that reaches out to one when one completely submits oneself to the will of Almighty God. This is achieved only when the individual acts in accordance with the direction of his Creator in all spheres of life. http://www.nicheoftruth.org/ Edited by Abu Loren - 16 November 2012 at 1:35am
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:21am
	.. Edited by Caringheart - 25 November 2012 at 6:21pm
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3993	Posted: 15 November 2012 at 11:52am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* You know what? I've changed my mind I'm not going to apologise any more. Those terms are in the Holy Qur'an and I am happy to use it against people who do not believe in Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala. People who are hurt by it then tough, grow up and be a man. It looks like there's only 3 people defending Islam on this forum from the crusading Christians. Myself, Beebok and Mahdi the Seeker. Perhaps you may what to defer "defending Islam" to the other three for a while.
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 16 November 2012 at 1:46am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* *Originally posted by Abu Loren* Caringheart you really are an obnoxious person if I were to meet you in real life I think I would punch you in the face! Abu, and all of your outspoken beliefs on the faith of others are never to be construed as obnoxious? How about simple free speech? You have no problem stating your beliefs, and who has threatened you for them? CH Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face. Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face."
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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1231	Posted: 17 November 2012 at 9:45am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face. Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face." Salam Abu, You should practice the principle in your writing. You should nice to everyone regarding thir believe, by choosing the nice word.
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 17 November 2012 at 10:05am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* Believe it or not I was being light hearted as my dark humour can be misunderstood. I would never hit a person intentionally and the Prophet has forbidden for people to hit others on the face. Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face." I believe you. Thank you. Humor is not always easy to discern on the internet. We grow in understanding. Salaam, CH
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 20 November 2012 at 8:11pm
	As'alaamu Alaikkum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatuhu 4) How can you say that the God of the Christians and Jews is the God of the Qur'an? Muhsin Khan Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him) to the Jews and Christians, "Dispute you with us about Allah while He is our Lord and your Lord? And we are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. And we are sincere to Him in worship and obedience (i.e. we worship Him Alone and none else, and we obey His Orders)." 2:139 So if they dispute with you (Muhammad SAW) say: "I have submitted myself to Allah (in Islam), and (so have) those who follow me." And say to those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and to those who are illiterates (Arab pagans): "Do you (also) submit yourselves (to Allah in Islam)?" If they do, they are rightly guided; but if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message; and Allah is All-Seer of (His ) slaves. 3:20
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