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Topic: Christians & Jews: Will any more prophets come?
Posted: 24 October 2012 at 4:34pm

May peace be on the guided ones. I am not very familiar with the Torah or Bible, so I had this curiosity for a long time. Who do Jews and Christians consider as the last prophet? And according to the scriptures, will Allah send any more prophets before the Day of Judgment?

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The world is a dangerous place to live in, not because of the bad people, but because of the good people who does not do anything about it.

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Posted: 24 October 2012 at 8:16pm

Originally posted by Ghazzali

May peace be on the guided ones. I am not very familiar with the Torah or Bible, so I had this curiosity for a long time. Who do Jews and Christians consider as the last prophet? And according to the scriptures, will Allah send any more prophets before the Day of Judgment?

Thanks.

That is a good question.
It has been my understanding that prophets were sent to the Jews and that era ended since the Jews continued to break the covenant with God. So I guess that would make Malachi the last prophet.
Then God sent Jesus, the new covenant that would graft in the gentiles, to include them as well as the Jews, in belonging to God.

Now, in the past I have asked a man training for the Catholic priesthood about Nostradamus and what the Catholic church says about him.

I also have to wonder what to make about the writer of the book of Revelation... who, it is supposed, is John, the beloved Apostle.
Is the book of Revelation prophetic? I will have to ask my priest friend about that one as well. Smile

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Posted: 25 October 2012 at 12:09am

As'alaamu Alaikkum

According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him.

The Jews, on the other hand, are still waiting for the Messiah.

Salaam

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Posted: 28 October 2012 at 6:25am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him.

Isa is the great prophet mentioned in the Quran. As a Muslim, you are right to put pbhu after his name.

But for Christians, there is no one called Isa in the Bible. Your message is about Jesus of the Bible, called Yasuu3 by Arab Christians.

You should not put pbhu after his name, because you do not acknowledge the half human, half godly Jesus of the Christian Bible, the one you are refering to.

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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 12:32am

Originally posted by Cyril

Originally posted by Abu Loren

According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him.

Say what Cyril? How many Jesus' Isa's Yasuu3 are there? Only one. However you call him he is the Messiah that was promised to Bani Israel and whom they rejected. He will come again to defeat the Anti-Christ, the Dajjal and to rule the Earth with justice. Are we on the same page?

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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 4:19am

Originally posted by Abu Loren

Originally posted by Cyril

Originally posted by Abu Loren

According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him.

Say what Cyril? How many Jesus' Isa's Yasuu3 are there? Only one.

No, there are two: Jesus from the New Testament, considered as a godly being, and the one from the Quran, a human prophet.
For reasons nobody knows exactly about, its name has been changed to Isa in the Quran.

Even if Jesus of the NT and Isa of the Quran refer to the same historical character, a Jewish master from Palestine, you cannot put pbuh to Jesus of the NT. That would be a kind of honor you give to the very symbol of shirk which the Quran utterly rejects.

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Posted: 29 October 2012 at 12:55pm

Cyril,
what do you mean by "godly being"?
and do you understand what pbuh means?
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 30 October 2012 at 6:24am

Originally posted by honeto

Cyril,
what do you mean by "godly being"?

Sorry I meant "godlike being".

and do you understand what pbuh means?
Hasan

Yes, of course I do. It means "peace be upon him", from Arabic "as-salaamu 3alayh" or more frequent "3alayhi s-salaam"

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Ghazzali Islam Groupie Joined: 01 November 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94	Topic: Christians & Jews: Will any more prophets come? Posted: 24 October 2012 at 4:34pm
	May peace be on the guided ones. I am not very familiar with the Torah or Bible, so I had this curiosity for a long time. Who do Jews and Christians consider as the last prophet? And according to the scriptures, will Allah send any more prophets before the Day of Judgment? Thanks.
	The world is a dangerous place to live in, not because of the bad people, but because of the good people who does not do anything about it.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 24 October 2012 at 8:16pm
	*Originally posted by Ghazzali* May peace be on the guided ones. I am not very familiar with the Torah or Bible, so I had this curiosity for a long time. Who do Jews and Christians consider as the last prophet? And according to the scriptures, will Allah send any more prophets before the Day of Judgment? Thanks. That is a good question. It has been my understanding that prophets were sent to the Jews and that era ended since the Jews continued to break the covenant with God. So I guess that would make Malachi the last prophet. Then God sent Jesus, the new covenant that would graft in the gentiles, to include them as well as the Jews, in belonging to God. Now, in the past I have asked a man training for the Catholic priesthood about Nostradamus and what the Catholic church says about him. I also have to wonder what to make about the writer of the book of Revelation... who, it is supposed, is John, the beloved Apostle. Is the book of Revelation prophetic? I will have to ask my priest friend about that one as well.
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 25 October 2012 at 12:09am
	*Originally posted by Ghazzali* May peace be on the guided ones. I am not very familiar with the Torah or Bible, so I had this curiosity for a long time. Who do Jews and Christians consider as the last prophet? And according to the scriptures, will Allah send any more prophets before the Day of Judgment? Thanks. As'alaamu Alaikkum According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him. The Jews, on the other hand, are still waiting for the Messiah. Salaam
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Cyril Senior Member Joined: 08 May 2006 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 176	Posted: 28 October 2012 at 6:25am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him. Isa is the great prophet mentioned in the Quran. As a Muslim, you are right to put pbhu after his name. But for Christians, there is no one called Isa in the Bible. Your message is about Jesus of the Bible, called Yasuu3 by Arab Christians. You should not put pbhu after his name, because you do not acknowledge the half human, half godly Jesus of the Christian Bible, the one you are refering to.
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 29 October 2012 at 12:32am
	*Originally posted by Cyril* *Originally posted by Abu Loren* According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him. Isa is the great prophet mentioned in the Quran. As a Muslim, you are right to put pbhu after his name. But for Christians, there is no one called Isa in the Bible. Your message is about Jesus of the Bible, called Yasuu3 by Arab Christians. You should not put pbhu after his name, because you do not acknowledge the half human, half godly Jesus of the Christian Bible, the one you are refering to. Say what Cyril? How many Jesus' Isa's Yasuu3 are there? Only one. However you call him he is the Messiah that was promised to Bani Israel and whom they rejected. He will come again to defeat the Anti-Christ, the Dajjal and to rule the Earth with justice. Are we on the same page?
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Cyril Senior Member Joined: 08 May 2006 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 176	Posted: 29 October 2012 at 4:19am
	*Originally posted by Abu Loren* *Originally posted by Cyril* *Originally posted by Abu Loren* According to the Christians Isa (pbuh) fulfilled all the obligations and there won't be a Prophet after him. Isa is the great prophet mentioned in the Quran. As a Muslim, you are right to put pbhu after his name. But for Christians, there is no one called Isa in the Bible. Your message is about Jesus of the Bible, called Yasuu3 by Arab Christians. You should not put pbhu after his name, because you do not acknowledge the half human, half godly Jesus of the Christian Bible, the one you are refering to. Say what Cyril? How many Jesus' Isa's Yasuu3 are there? Only one. No, there are two: Jesus from the New Testament, considered as a godly being, and the one from the Quran, a human prophet. For reasons nobody knows exactly about, its name has been changed to Isa in the Quran. Even if Jesus of the NT and Isa of the Quran refer to the same historical character, a Jewish master from Palestine, you cannot put pbuh to Jesus of the NT. That would be a kind of honor you give to the very symbol of shirk which the Quran utterly rejects.
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 29 October 2012 at 12:55pm
	Cyril, what do you mean by "godly being"? and do you understand what pbuh means? Hasan
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Cyril Senior Member Joined: 08 May 2006 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 176	Posted: 30 October 2012 at 6:24am
	*Originally posted by honeto* Cyril, what do you mean by "godly being"? Sorry I meant "godlike being". and do you understand what pbuh means? Hasan Yes, of course I do. It means "peace be upon him", from Arabic "as-salaamu 3alayh" or more frequent "3alayhi s-salaam"
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