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Abu Loren
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Posted: 22 October 2012 at 4:13am

Miqdam bin Ma'dikarib Al-Kindi narrated that:

The Messenger of Allah () said: "Soon there will come a time that a man will be reclining on his pillow, and when one of my Ahadith is narrated he will say: 'The Book of Allah is (sufficient) between us and you. Whatever it states is permissible, we will take as permissible, and whatever it states is forbidden, we will take as forbidden.' Verily, whatever the Messenger of Allah () has forbidden is like that which Allah has forbidden."
Arabic/English book reference : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 12

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Posted: 22 October 2012 at 3:48pm

And of course you see nothing illogical about using the hadith to justify the authenticity of the hadith.

Addeenul ‘Aql – Religion is intellect.

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 12:01am

Thus the Prophet () affirms his own authority as being no less than that of Supreme Being ().

God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 2:14am

Originally posted by nospam001

Thus the Prophet () affirms his own authority as being no less than that of Supreme Being ().

The Prophet (pbuh) has been given special dispensation where his followers are to obey him because everything he says id from God.

Sahih International

Say, "Obey Allah and the Messenger." But if they turn away - then indeed, Allah does not like the disbelievers. 3:31

And obey Allah and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy. 3:132

He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian. 4:80

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 3:07am

Assalamu alaika Ron Webb.

Yes indeed there is nothing illogical in Allah stating that those who are averse to reality will never see it, how much Hard He tries to show them that reality. I am sure you will never believe that the heavens (sky) were raised without pillars that you can see!

Friendship.

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 3:16am

Assalami alaika nospam001.

Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah. It is not the Qur'an that is behind al-Qaeeda, Taliban, unemployment, recession and the conflict between the Arabs nations, but rather and precisely the rejection of the Sunna of Muhammad - the Caliphate.

Friendship.

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 7:18am

Originally posted by Friendship

Assalami alaika nospam001.

Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah.

This statement requires repentance at the very least, and a renewal of shahaadah depending upon one's intention and understanding. Wallahu Mustaan!

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Posted: 23 October 2012 at 8:14am

Originally posted by abuayisha

Originally posted by Friendship

Assalami alaika nospam001.

Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah.

This statement requires repentance at the very least, and a renewal of shahaadah depending upon one's intention and understanding. Wallahu Mustaan!

Well to be honest, I suspected Friendhip to be peculiar when s/he thinks that the answer to Islam lies with the Jews and their Rabbis.

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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Topic: To, The Hadith Haters Posted: 22 October 2012 at 4:13am
	Miqdam bin Ma'dikarib Al-Kindi narrated that: The Messenger of Allah () said: "Soon there will come a time that a man will be reclining on his pillow, and when one of my Ahadith is narrated he will say: 'The Book of Allah is (sufficient) between us and you. Whatever it states is permissible, we will take as permissible, and whatever it states is forbidden, we will take as forbidden.' Verily, whatever the Messenger of Allah () has forbidden is like that which Allah has forbidden." Arabic/English book reference : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 12
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Ron Webb Male Humanism Senior Member Joined: 30 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1403	Posted: 22 October 2012 at 3:48pm
	And of course you see nothing illogical about using the hadith to justify the authenticity of the hadith.
	Addeenul ‘Aql – Religion is intellect.
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nospam001 Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 02 October 2012 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 150	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 12:01am
	Thus the Prophet () affirms his own authority as being no less than that of Supreme Being ().
	God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 2:14am
	*Originally posted by nospam001* Thus the Prophet () affirms his own authority as being no less than that of Supreme Being (). The Prophet (pbuh) has been given special dispensation where his followers are to obey him because everything he says id from God. Sahih International Say, "Obey Allah and the Messenger." But if they turn away - then indeed, Allah does not like the disbelievers. 3:31 And obey Allah and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy. 3:132 He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian. 4:80
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 875	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 3:07am
	Assalamu alaika Ron Webb. Yes indeed there is nothing illogical in Allah stating that those who are averse to reality will never see it, how much Hard He tries to show them that reality. I am sure you will never believe that the heavens (sky) were raised without pillars that you can see! Friendship.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 875	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 3:16am
	Assalami alaika nospam001. Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah. It is not the Qur'an that is behind al-Qaeeda, Taliban, unemployment, recession and the conflict between the Arabs nations, but rather and precisely the rejection of the Sunna of Muhammad - the Caliphate. Friendship.
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3997	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 7:18am
	*Originally posted by Friendship* Assalami alaika nospam001. Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah. This statement requires repentance at the very least, and a renewal of shahaadah depending upon one's intention and understanding. Wallahu Mustaan!
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Abu Loren Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 29 June 2012 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Posts: 568	Posted: 23 October 2012 at 8:14am
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* *Originally posted by Friendship* Assalami alaika nospam001. Indeed Muhammad's authority is in reality superior than that of Allah. This statement requires repentance at the very least, and a renewal of shahaadah depending upon one's intention and understanding. Wallahu Mustaan! Well to be honest, I suspected Friendhip to be peculiar when s/he thinks that the answer to Islam lies with the Jews and their Rabbis.
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