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Abuayisha,
Sorry to jump in(I know you don't like talking to me ), but, really what was wrong in the rationale of the last post made by Ron?
Extremism does increase by gradual steps.  It is going from simple curiosity and association to being drawn into a mob mentality.  What can also be termed mass hysteria.
I don't see bigotry in his comments, and I have seen you be more rational.
Just my observation,
Caringheart

I personally think the young men in the mid east have too much time on their hands and no useful purpose.  Like someone else commented... who are all these men and what do they do for food?  Don't they have to be working?  The country needs to find ways of gearing them towards useful employment of their time and energies.

Edited by Caringheart - 16 September 2012 at 10:04am

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1310	Posted: 16 September 2012 at 9:55am
	Abuayisha, Sorry to jump in(I know you don't like talking to me ), but, really what was wrong in the rationale of the last post made by Ron? Extremism does increase by gradual steps. It is going from simple curiosity and association to being drawn into a mob mentality. What can also be termed mass hysteria. I don't see bigotry in his comments, and I have seen you be more rational. Just my observation, Caringheart I personally think the young men in the mid east have too much time on their hands and no useful purpose. Like someone else commented... who are all these men and what do they do for food? Don't they have to be working? The country needs to find ways of gearing them towards useful employment of their time and energies. Edited by Caringheart - 16 September 2012 at 10:04am
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3992	Posted: 16 September 2012 at 10:47am
	Caringheart, do you have a comment on the interview with Moez Masoud, which is the topic of this thread? There has been a recent spark which has ignited protest across the Arab middle east and Muslim world, that Masoud offers up his critical analysis of events. Please have a listen and comment if you'd like.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1310	Posted: 16 September 2012 at 3:21pm
	Greetings Abuayisha, I pretty much agree with what Ron has been saying.
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Ron Webb Male Humanism Senior Member Joined: 30 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1399	Posted: 16 September 2012 at 3:41pm
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* *Originally posted by Ron Webb* but in fact there really is no line between mainstream and radical Islam (or any other faith). Well Ron, you hold a very extreme position, and sadly your bigotry is exactly what radical groups use when recruiting. This thread, ideally, is for comments on the interview I posted, and not entertaining your hatred of Islam (or any other faith). Please note that I did not say there is no difference between mainstream and radical Islam. I said that there is no line, i.e. no clear criterion, by which one can objectively or precisely distinguish the two groups. What one person might consider "radical" might be viewed by another as too "moderate". As for recruiting, IMHO that is the function of these riots. Again, one more reason to steer clear of them.
	Addeenul ‘Aql – Religion is intellect.
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3992	Posted: 16 September 2012 at 6:48pm
	Was that a clarification? Interesting. I really think any view other than your own is problematic, and specifically with respect to the Islamic community. I invite you to finish the interview perhaps an epiphany may occur....
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 17 September 2012 at 8:08pm
	actually, I too think Ron's view is pretty middly of the road.
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3992	Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:13am
	Well the plaque of radicalism certainly by far impacts Muslims greater than others, therefore perhaps I shouldn't expect or be surprised at the "other" not having the care or willingness to partner with moderate - mainstream Muslims in isolating extremist. I only hope few views expressed on this forum are indeed as I've characterized them - extreme. Edited by abuayisha - 18 September 2012 at 9:22am
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1310	Posted: 18 September 2012 at 9:43am
	*Originally posted by abuayisha* Well the plaque of radicalism certainly by far impacts Muslims greater than others, therefore perhaps I shouldn't expect or be surprised at the "other" not having the care or willingness to partner with moderate - mainstream Muslims in isolating extremist. I only hope few views expressed on this forum are indeed as I've characterized them - extreme. I think that is exactly what "others" do want... but can Islam be reformed? I think that is the question. That is why I am studying the scriptures. " I only hope few views expressed on this forum are indeed as I've characterized them - extreme." Me too. It is what I came on the forums to try and discover for myself, from talking to Muslims myself.
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