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Originally posted by Caringheart

Hasan,Because people keep asking, I try to explain but they must be enlightened by the Holy spirit to receive the message, and I do not control that.salaamWho is it that (really) twists the words of others?I have never done this with anything you have had to say.'let those with eyes to see, see'__________________________“If you keep to my teaching 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">the words of Jesus[note:  if you haven't noticed TNC and I are ok with each other.  That is called respect.  He has his belief and I accept that.  I have mine.  I hope he accepts that.  Not being able to explain it to one another does not diminish the belief of either one of us.]

Caringheart,

if you do not know how to explain that the earth is round, why would you try to teach it to others?

If you do not know how to explain Trinity, why would you become a stooge in front of others by trying to explain and convince them. 

You say Jesus is God and equal to God. We have shown you he is not. Instead he has a God, even according to your own book. Do you not trust your own book?

John 20:17 "...Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Jesus has a God.

Why are you so scared to set yourself free by proclaiming that truth, are you scared of an outcast in your own community, is that all? It will be right to know, accept and love Jesus (pbuh) for what he was, as the above verse states and not for what he was not.

Quran 19:35 Such was Jesus the son of Mary a statement of truth about which they vainly dispute.

And if you cannot know or explain Trinity, then you should keep it to yourself if not abonden it, so you don't decieve others because if you do, not only your own but their sins will be on you!

Hasan

Edited by honeto - 01 November 2012 at 2:49pm

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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 01 November 2012 at 2:42pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* Hasan,Because people keep asking, I try to explain but they must be enlightened by the Holy spirit to receive the message, and I do not control that.salaamWho is it that (really) twists the words of others?I have never done this with anything you have had to say.'let those with eyes to see, see'__________________________“If you keep to my teaching 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">the words of Jesus[note: if you haven't noticed TNC and I are ok with each other. That is called respect. He has his belief and I accept that. I have mine. I hope he accepts that. Not being able to explain it to one another does not diminish the belief of either one of us.] Caringheart, if you do not know how to explain that the earth is round, why would you try to teach it to others? If you do not know how to explain Trinity, why would you become a stooge in front of others by trying to explain and convince them. You say Jesus is God and equal to God. We have shown you he is not. Instead he has a God, even according to your own book. Do you not trust your own book? John 20:17 "...Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Jesus has a God. Why are you so scared to set yourself free by proclaiming that truth, are you scared of an outcast in your own community, is that all? It will be right to know, accept and love Jesus (pbuh) for what he was, as the above verse states and not for what he was not. Quran 19:35 Such was Jesus the son of Mary a statement of truth about which they vainly dispute. And if you cannot know or explain Trinity, then you should keep it to yourself if not abonden it, so you don't decieve others because if you do, not only your own but their sins will be on you! Hasan Edited by honeto - 01 November 2012 at 2:49pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 01 November 2012 at 4:06pm
	@Hasan, Because I am not 'trying to convince' anyone. That is not my job to do. That is God's. "... people keep asking, I try to explain but they must be enlightened by the Holy spirit to receive the message, and I do not control that." I know, what I know, what I know. and that is all that matters. Because you can not understand, does not mean I have not explained. It simply means you do not understand. Just as I do not understand your belief. Salaam Edited by Caringheart - 02 November 2012 at 4:20pm
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