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Waliya
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Posted: 30 August 2012 at 2:54pm

I have so many questions while reading the Quran, and who is supposed to be helping me, I feel he no longer has the desire to help me, cause he is inlove with a Kufar. I just became a Muslimah and I need proper guidence.

I noticed when reading Surat 7 Part 8, that Iblis was already aware that we would have to face the Day of Resurrection. I am wondering how did Iblis know all that he did know if Allah Banished him after the Creation of Adam? How was Iblis able to go to othe Garden of Eden if he was Banished? [IMG]smileys/smiley9.gif" align="middle" />

Edited by Waliya - 30 August 2012 at 2:55pm

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Posted: 31 August 2012 at 12:36am

Welcome to the forum,

When Allah created Adam, Iblis was already there living with the angles performing all prayers. Allah knowing that he has ego asked all angles Prostrate yourselves to Adam", and they prostrated themselves, except Iblis .Since he was living there he know that human are to be tested at the earth and who ever will be successful will only be go into paradise .Because Adam is the cause that Allah banish him, he become enemy of Adam and after that all human. He asks permission from Allah to grant him a life till Day of Resurrection and he was granted by Allah. Since Adam at that time was there in the paradise so he too is allowed to go there.

Just my thoughts.

Usmani

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Posted: 31 August 2012 at 5:01pm

Originally posted by Waliya

I noticed when reading Surat 7 Part 8, that Iblis was already aware that we would have to face the Day of Resurrection. I am wondering how did Iblis know all that he did know if Allah Banished him after the Creation of Adam? How was Iblis able to go to othe Garden of Eden if he was Banished?

Iblis is the name of a person, and this person belong to Jinn family. Jinn came from the root J and N in Arabic. And I found out that the word Jannah also sharing the same root. We all know to enter Jannah we must earn it first in the former life, and Jannah or Hell are the reward for whatever we did in the former life. it is therefore rasonable to say, that this period of the universe existance (right now) is that reward for them. Iblis and his companions are actually in Jannah. When for all sudden - Adam from nowhere were placed in a place that is right fully theirs!.

You pick up what I am saying? Think!

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Waliya
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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 12:59am

I just reverted on December 3rd, 2011, please excuse me if I am not to knowledgable of the Qur'an. I rarely get to speak with my enlightener due to him being ill. I am learning things from the Qur'an as it comes. If I have a question, I would ask hom when he is well enough. What you have explained makes sense. I would like to ShukrH to the Elder. I now know.

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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 1:04am

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Posted: 01 September 2012 at 1:59pm

Salam,

Welcome to Islam, and welcome to IC forum too.

Islam is not how much knowledege you have about it but how much you practice of what you know.

Salam/Peace,
Semar
The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full"
"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

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Posted: 03 September 2012 at 6:24pm

Originally posted by Waliya

I just reverted on December 3rd, 2011, please excuse me if I am not to knowledgable of the Qur'an. I rarely get to speak with my enlightener due to him being ill. I am learning things from the Qur'an as it comes. If I have a question, I would ask hom when he is well enough. What you have explained makes sense. I would like to Shukrhan to the Elder. I now know.

I am sorry if it was sound too much but you are well ahead of the rest in just over six months. My advice to you from my experience is try to read one translation only. What happen is long from now when for all sudden you remember something but you don't know where, than you can use search engine to find it by using the specific translation.
But other than that hopefully with sincerity you may be able to see deep inside the Qur'an yourself, through the veil.
Salaam.

"It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a Messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise. (51)

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Waliya Female Islam Starter. Joined: 30 August 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Topic: In need of Enlightener Posted: 30 August 2012 at 2:54pm
	I have so many questions while reading the Quran, and who is supposed to be helping me, I feel he no longer has the desire to help me, cause he is inlove with a Kufar. I just became a Muslimah and I need proper guidence. I noticed when reading Surat 7 Part 8, that Iblis was already aware that we would have to face the Day of Resurrection. I am wondering how did Iblis know all that he did know if Allah Banished him after the Creation of Adam? How was Iblis able to go to othe Garden of Eden if he was Banished? [IMG]smileys/smiley9.gif" align="middle" /> Edited by Waliya - 30 August 2012 at 2:55pm
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Usmani Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 07 September 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 132	Posted: 31 August 2012 at 12:36am
	Welcome to the forum, When Allah created Adam, Iblis was already there living with the angles performing all prayers. Allah knowing that he has ego asked all angles Prostrate yourselves to Adam", and they prostrated themselves, except Iblis .Since he was living there he know that human are to be tested at the earth and who ever will be successful will only be go into paradise .Because Adam is the cause that Allah banish him, he become enemy of Adam and after that all human. He asks permission from Allah to grant him a life till Day of Resurrection and he was granted by Allah. Since Adam at that time was there in the paradise so he too is allowed to go there. Just my thoughts. Usmani
	Engage your self in good deeds,otherswise yours nafs will engage you in bad deeds
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abuayisha Senior Member Joined: 05 October 1999 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3992	Posted: 31 August 2012 at 6:17am
	http://islamqa.info/en/ref/6297 http://islamqa.info/en/ref/10034 http://islamqa.info/en/ref/8976
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 360	Posted: 31 August 2012 at 5:01pm
	*Originally posted by Waliya* I noticed when reading Surat 7 Part 8, that Iblis was already aware that we would have to face the Day of Resurrection. I am wondering how did Iblis know all that he did know if Allah Banished him after the Creation of Adam? How was Iblis able to go to othe Garden of Eden if he was Banished? Iblis is the name of a person, and this person belong to Jinn family. Jinn came from the root J and N in Arabic. And I found out that the word Jannah also sharing the same root. We all know to enter Jannah we must earn it first in the former life, and Jannah or Hell are the reward for whatever we did in the former life. it is therefore rasonable to say, that this period of the universe existance (right now) is that reward for them. Iblis and his companions are actually in Jannah. When for all sudden - Adam from nowhere were placed in a place that is right fully theirs!. You pick up what I am saying? Think!
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Waliya Female Islam Starter. Joined: 30 August 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Posted: 01 September 2012 at 12:59am
	I just reverted on December 3rd, 2011, please excuse me if I am not to knowledgable of the Qur'an. I rarely get to speak with my enlightener due to him being ill. I am learning things from the Qur'an as it comes. If I have a question, I would ask hom when he is well enough. What you have explained makes sense. I would like to ShukrH to the Elder. I now know.
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Waliya Female Islam Starter. Joined: 30 August 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Posted: 01 September 2012 at 1:04am
	I just reverted on December 3rd, 2011, please excuse me if I am not to knowledgable of the Qur'an. I rarely get to speak with my enlightener due to him being ill. I am learning things from the Qur'an as it comes. If I have a question, I would ask hom when he is well enough. What you have explained makes sense. I would like to Shukrhan to the Elder. I now know.
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semar Senior Member Senior Member Joined: 11 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1231	Posted: 01 September 2012 at 1:59pm
	Salam, Welcome to Islam, and welcome to IC forum too. Islam is not how much knowledege you have about it but how much you practice of what you know.
	Salam/Peace, Semar The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full" "1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 360	Posted: 03 September 2012 at 6:24pm
	*Originally posted by Waliya* I just reverted on December 3rd, 2011, please excuse me if I am not to knowledgable of the Qur'an. I rarely get to speak with my enlightener due to him being ill. I am learning things from the Qur'an as it comes. If I have a question, I would ask hom when he is well enough. What you have explained makes sense. I would like to Shukrhan to the Elder. I now know. I am sorry if it was sound too much but you are well ahead of the rest in just over six months. My advice to you from my experience is try to read one translation only. What happen is long from now when for all sudden you remember something but you don't know where, than you can use search engine to find it by using the specific translation. But other than that hopefully with sincerity you may be able to see deep inside the Qur'an yourself, through the veil. Salaam. "It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a Messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise. (51)
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