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Quote Friendship Replybullet Posted: 24 September 2012 at 10:29pm
Assalamu alaika Abu Loren.
 
But I think it is the same with the followers of Muhammad. I like discussion with the Rabbis for they are straightforward and always say I do not know. They do not feel shy according to the Sunna of Muhammad Rasulullah.
 
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Quote Abu Loren Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2012 at 6:19am
Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following
instructions: “Do not go
among the Gentiles or enter
any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.

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Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said,
“All authority in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded
you.


Sorry. My bad. Clearly no contradiction.


CLEARLY one is added much later, therefore the contradiction.
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Quote Friendship Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2012 at 9:58am
Assalamu alaikum.
 
I am yet to get a clear satisfactory explanation from the Christians on the difference bewteen SELF-PRONOUNCING RED LETTER EDITION AND OTHERS. In the self pronouncing red letter edition. Math 10:5, "Those twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them saying." is self pronouncing black letter edition.  Therefore it is not the statement of Jesus son of Maryam. The rest are self pronouncing red letter. Therefore that was the statement of Jesus son of Maryam.
Matthew 28:18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying: Is self pronouncing black letter edition. That was not the statement of Jesus son of Maryam. Thwe res tare sel pronouncing red letter.
The important question is: If Moses was given the Torah under one sitting or one meeting, the followers of Jesus son of Maryam are depicting that Jesus son of Maryam was visited by angel Gabriel in the manner he visited Muhammad Rasulullah. But this is denied by Allah in the Qur'an  25:32, "Why is the Qur'an not sent in one go?"
I believe the Christians are creating stumbling block in refusing to understand that Muhammad did not come to deny the messengers before him. I will advise the folowers of Muhammad to take note of that and that whaever one reads from the Bible should make effort to know its arms from the Qur'an or hadith of the holy Apostle.
Let us give them the burden of proof that they do not like peace to reign.
 
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2012 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following
instructions: “Do not go
among the Gentiles or enter
any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.

VS

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said,
“All authority in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded
you.


Sorry. My bad. Clearly no contradiction.


Time and place...
Different times, different places... different point in the ministry of Jesus.
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2012 at 12:49pm
Greetings Friendship,

While I still am not understanding the point you want to make regarding red letter writing, I was led by God to share this today...
this is red letter writing... words of Jesus

31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
32 But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him.  (Mark)

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  (John)

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Quote Friendship Replybullet Posted: 25 September 2012 at 11:05pm
Assalamu alaika Caringheart.
 
Please give the chapters and the Book's name.
 
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Quote Abu Loren Replybullet Posted: 26 September 2012 at 6:36am
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Greetings Friendship,While I still am not understanding the point you want to make regarding red letter writing, I was led by God to share this today...this is red letter writing... words of Jesus31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.32 But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him.  (Mark)11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  (John)Salaam,Caringheart


Caringheart, the trouble is one does not what is original verse and which are added later on, I'm sorry but we cannot rely on any of what you have posted. THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED!
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Quote Mahdi The Seeke Replybullet Posted: 26 September 2012 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Caringheart


Originally posted by Mahdi The Seeke

Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following
instructions: “Do not go
among the Gentiles or enter
any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.

VS

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said,
“All authority in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded
you.


Sorry. My bad. Clearly no contradiction.
Time and place...Different times, different places... different point in the ministry of Jesus.

That's no excuse.
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