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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2012 at 8:14am
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As for the Arab Spring and the Great Deception to secularise the Ummah it would be nice to hear the comments of Muslim participants!!
Surely Islam as evidenced in Spain had little or no problem with pluralism and religious freedom.  


Wrong, Abuayisha. We need to depict history accurately. Islam in Spain has little to do with modern democracy. It was an apartheid-type system. There was official discrimination against Christians and Jews (and against Muslim women too). Muslim men were the rulers, like the white men in South Africa till 1993. There was no pluralism and religious freedom in the modern sense. Muslims in Muslim Iberia did not have the freedom to become Christians. They could not disagree with the Sharia and found political parties to change the laws. The Sharia is in large parts a set of barbaric, inhumane laws, created more than 1000 years ago and based on 7th-century Arab tribal culture.

The Arab Spring in Egypt is now headed for barbarism. The new Sharia-inspired Egyptian constitution makes discrimination official: discrimination against women and discrimination against Christians and other religious minorities. The Muslim Brotherhood was the first Islamist terror organization of the 20th century.



Edited by Matt Browne - 16 December 2012 at 8:16am
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2012 at 8:20am
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Only non-Muslims lunatics can make such comments and still walk free as it is tolerated. I wish they treat this same and do what they do to a Muslim lunatic when he makes such a threat.
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This is not entirely correct, Hasan. Asking people to commit a crime is a crime and not free speech.

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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2012 at 8:31am
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I don't see how a declaration of "Islamic State" will somehow transform the life of everyday Egyptians struggling to feed, clothe, and educate their children.  Muslims, in whatever country they are found today, are more in need of substance, and can do without ceremonial formalities aimed only at pleasing the radical few. 


Egypt based on an Islamist, Sharia-inspired constitution will make life of everyday struggling Egyptians even worse. Investors will avoid Egypt even more. And soon tourists will avoid Egypt too, destroying millions of tourist-related jobs. Imagine the first news report about unmarried teenagers being whipped after having sex or unfaithful married women being stoned to death or people getting beheaded for insulting Islam. I also fear for the lives of the millions of Egyptian Copts. We will see more and more destroyed churches, like what is happening in Nigeria or Iraq. More and more Christians are leaving Iraq because of violent followers of the religion of peace. Half the Christian population has fled, with an estimated 330,000 to Syria and smaller numbers to Jordan. Now if Islamists take over in Syria with Assad gone, these Christians have to flee yet again, all in the name of the world's best religion.



Edited by Matt Browne - 16 December 2012 at 8:34am
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