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Quote i.dawa Replybullet Topic: Arab Spring - The Great Deception
    Posted: 27 July 2012 at 5:12am
Assalamualikum Dear Brothers and Sisters.

As most of you are probably aware of the massive changes that are occurring in our lands (Islamic Lands) where the old servants of America and the West are being disposed of and new governments are being elected in due to severe misery experienced under the previous corrupt rulers.
The children of the Ummah found new courage to make a stand against those that were ruling over them with an iron fist who brought them nothing but humiliations in all walks of life.

A new reality has now emerged where certain movements such as the "En Nahda” party of Tunisia, the “Muslim Brotherhood” of Egypt have gained huge popularity amongst the masses due to their “inclinations” towards Islam and currently they occupy the seats of power. Naturally Muslims equate honesty and fairness with those who are seen to be Islamic and as a result of that the so-called “islamist’s” movements are popular in the Muslims world and America see’s this which prompted America to quickly embrace the “Islamist’s” and started sided with the people at the same time.

America lost all credibility in the Muslim world due to her approach towards Islam and Muslims, and of the fact that she was seen to siding with the dictators while lecturing about “freedom” and “democracy” etc.
The Idea of religion entering in to politics and the rise of Islam is reality America has nightmares over and she has been meticulously planning and plotting against the ummah’s for decades now attempting to steer the ummah further away from Islam by implementing various styles.

Though the Ummah is rejoicing the removal of the evil dictators but she is falling in to yet another dangerous trap set by America – a trap which is designed to cement secularism by adopting the notion of a “Civil State”.

“The concept of the civil state has cropped up recently as a result of the cultural deception that America has been spreading in the region. Many Muslims from among the elites and the masses have been influenced by this concept and endorsed it in its quality as an alternative to the military and tyrannical rule and as a reflection of the wishes of society. Others deemed it as the healing remedy to what is existent in society in terms of cultural, political, ethnic and religious plurality. They pitted the civil state against the “theocratic state” by which they mean the state that is based upon the theory of divine right or the “church-based state”. Then they attributed this to the state that is based upon the religion of Islam. They also mean by “civil state” the state that separates religion from life’s affairs.”

Sadly the very movements who talk about Islam are the ones whom America has befriended because they are the “islamist’s” and America knows these movements do not base their opinion on the Islamic Aqeedah. This is similar to a party which may call itself the “Christian democratic party” yet adheres to the principles of capitalism.

The following was written by a brother which summarises the new American design in our lands:

I think it is very important to point out to the Muslim's that there is a very dangerous plot being hatched in order to dupe the Muslim ummah in adopting secularism.

If we look at the year or so old and current events occurring in the Middle East after the Arab spring, we can see that it would seem as the so called 'Islamists' are coming into power.

Do you really think that the West, headed by America, would allow this to happen if it was genuine? No, of course not. In fact, this is their latest plan on tricking the Muslims into believing that they have liberated themselves, but the sorry outcome is that they have not.

Brothers and sisters, It is our duty to expose the Greater Middle East Initiative and expounding America’s objective from promoting the Turkish model, namely bringing the “Islamists” to power but with no Islam, in order to revive secularism, the concentration of which would serve America’s supremacy over the world this century.

There are 5 main points that the Ummah should be aware of:-

- The so-called Arab Spring is but an exploitation of the Ummah’s resentment towards the gangs of rulers in the Muslims’ lands and the utilising of the Ummah’s faculties to replace those gangs with popular chieftainships.

- The masses, who cannot be accused of treason, are prone to deception. People have been deceived and goaded towards rebellion against the ruling gangs under secular slogans; they have also been deceived into believing that the “civil state” is the objective the Ummah endeavours to achieve.

- America has succeeded in bringing the so-called Islamists to power but without Islam. America is forging ahead with her plans to subject the Ummah into embracing secularism once it has been shrouded with the Islamic cloak.

- Helping the Islamists seize power without Islam is a great deception of the Muslims; some justify this by claiming it is a gradual process. This is part of the thoughts that must be resisted. Some also consider it coinciding interests, which is also a political idea that must be fought. Others deem it a victory for Islam and the Muslims, and choose to overlook the parable of Hamas, who is still implementing the laws of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza, the parable of Tunisia and that of Turkey before it.

- Alleviating people’s burdens of economic hardship and cutting down corruption does not mean achieving the objective to which Muslims should aspire; this will be a part of the great deception that entails turning the Turkish model and what it has yielded in terms of alleviating the economic burdens on people and the state, and portraying all this as either an achievement of the objective the Muslims should seek or as the path towards attaining the objective, namely the resumption of the Islamic way of life.

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Quote Dick Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2012 at 3:54pm
There will never be a revolution anywhere, and every attempt will always be taken over by American puppets, as long as there is an America. That is just what they do. That is what they always do, everywhere. And there will always be an America because there will always be brain dead red necks to love, worship, adore, and support any rotten evil thing that it does. Did it ever occur to you that God must love flag waving *****s, he made so many of them. Go to www.whatreallyhappened.com to see some alternative ideas.
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Quote Matt Browne Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2012 at 4:17am
Dawa, as long as you blame all of your own mistakes on America, there won't be any real progress in the Muslim word.

As long as you talk about the Ummah there won't be world peace. Dividing the human family into two parts is irresponsible and wrong.



Edited by Matt Browne - 28 July 2012 at 4:18am
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2012 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by Matt Browne

Dawa, as long as you blame all of your own mistakes on America, there won't be any real progress in the Muslim word.

As long as you talk about the Ummah there won't be world peace. Dividing the human family into two parts is irresponsible and wrong.

 
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Right on target Matt.
The blame game never gets anyone, anywhere.
Take responsibility for your own mess I say and maybe you will see progress.
The Israelites never wasted time blaming what happened to them, they just get on with life and look how much they accomplish.
Start focusing on yourselves and doing what you need to do for your own people and stop worrying about battling with the world.  Only then will there be improvement for all.
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Quote TruthSeeker995 Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2012 at 4:44am
The Israelites? who used the holocaust to displace a people and continue to oppress them using US weaponry and military aid while the world watches with complete apathy?

You are correct that that Muslims must get their own house in order. It is that they fall for the trap of detaching Islam from life's affairs that leads them to error.

Islam did indeed come for mankind and humanity as a whole but it is the Muslims that must carry it to all other nations, so the Muslim ummah must concern themselves with their own situation first. They need to become aware of the US designs for the Middle East and the greater Muslim world so that they foil them and begin to work according to her own independent agenda. Not one conceived for her so that she remains subjugated for the next hundred years. She must begin to adhere to and reflect the ideas and values which distinguish her from other nations, one which is devoted to Allah (swt) and only then will she become freed from the shackles that she finds herself in.

You are right though one can not blame America for looking after her "interests" like one can not blame a snake for biting and poisoning someone. It is what it does.
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Quote TruthSeeker995 Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2012 at 8:09am
Brother you mention bringing in Islamists without Islam - however the AK party would not call themselves as such - rather promoting themselves as believers of conservative democracy. Why do they continue to be called Islamists? I agree that the brotherhood and others fall into line with that comment. In any case isnt the term Islamist a devisive term - No Muslim goes by any other name then 'Muslim'

My question is can you realistically avoid gradualism? Can one expect that change will happen in a black and white way - so one day you are living under tyranny and the next you are living under Islam under a just ruler. Can it happen like that? You are correct to make the point that secularism in any form has no acceptance in Islam and the civil state is an embodiment of secularism..

Seeing that the media is beyond the control of sincere people - and without it the reach you need to educate sufficient Muslims to counter these designs is a tough ask - What do you do? Jzk for raising awareness of this matter
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Quote Caringheart Replybullet Posted: 31 July 2012 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by TruthSeeker995

The Israelites? who used the holocaust to displace a people and continue to oppress them using US weaponry and military aid while the world watches with complete apathy?


This is an aggravating misconception that comes up time and again.
The Jewish people did not displace and oppress.  The Arab continuum refused to accept any proposal for relocation of the Jewish people to their original place of habitation.  The Jews were willing to accept the proposal that was made for them to have a small portion of the land to live in.  The Arab(Palestinian if you want to call them that) leadership brought this on its own people by refusing to accept any, and all, reasonable proposals.  The Jewish people did not seek to displace but they accepted the proposal for a separate state in order to solve the matter. (They were receiving such a minuscule portion of the land, a percentage if I remember correctly of less than 20 percent.  I don't have time to look it up right now.)
The Arabs would not accept this and they began a war in which all the Palestinians fled the land because they were warned by their people that this war was going to happen.  They left to escape the war.  The Arabs lost this war and that is why things are as they are today. (Do the research) The Arabs refuse any compromise, holding to the idea that their way is the only right and acceptable way.  The people who want to do the oppressing are the Arabs.  The people they seek to subdue and oppress are the Jews.  Would any living human being be willing to accept this?  Wouldn't any living human being fight against it?
The answer is yes, and the Jews were willing to fight for the right to exist and no longer be subject to the treatment of others.
The Arabs(Palestinians) had every opportunity to resolve the matter amicably and they would not.
"Islam did indeed come for mankind and humanity as a whole but it is the Muslims that must carry it to all other nations, so the Muslim ummah must concern themselves with their own situation first. They need to become aware of the US designs for the Middle East and the greater Muslim world so that they foil them and begin to work according to her own independent agenda. Not one conceived for her so that she remains subjugated for the next hundred years. She must begin to adhere to and reflect the ideas and values which distinguish her from other nations, one which is devoted to Allah (swt) and only then will she become freed from the shackles that she finds herself in."
She must stop making war.
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Quote i.dawa Replybullet Posted: 01 August 2012 at 10:14am
This is a discussion relevant to the Muslims because of what is at stake here. Discussing with non-Muslims would be futile because any discussions with non-Muslims has to be about establishing the truth i.e. the true way of life and whether they agree that there is a creator who created everything and the criterion for judging matters has to be from that creator. For the Muslims Halal and Haram is the criterion for actions and we should judge everything from our creed which "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah". In other words we believe in the creator and we believe in the revelation sent by the creator to Muhammad (saw) as the final revelation sent to mankind. The Quran and the Sunnah is our source of legislation where we take our laws from.

Anyway in response to some of the other posts:

The term “islamist’s” is often used by the western media and amongst western politician to describe those movements who are seen to be islamicaly inclined (not necessarily ideological). The AK party of Turkey is also viewed to have Islamic origins. What you’ll find common amongst such movements including the An-Nahda party of Tunisia is that they all talk about aspects of Islam and its role within the modern day politics.   They do not want the Islamic aqeedah to be the basis of their rule where everything is viewed and dealt by Islam; on the contrary they just champion certain matters which the masses may feel to be of some importance like the headscarf case in Turkey or talking favourably of the Muslims in Gaza and so on.

As for the “gradual implementation” approach – well this has no reality and it can be made in to a mockery. One can say I’ll stop drinking alcohol gradually and one day I’ll do other things bit by bit. I’m sure no Muslim can accept this kind of thinking clearly because it contradicts Islam.

Our work must be geared towards uprooting kufr from our countries by culturing the ummah with Islam by explaining the nature of Aqeedah that it is a political and a spiritual Aqeedah, about the Khilafah and how it looks after the affairs of Muslims etc.

If we look at the example of the Messenger (saw) how he ruled by Islam then we’ll learn that a state is needed and this State must be built by the Ummah on the basis of the Islamic Aqeedah alone.

Presently the ummah is still in a decline state and unaware of the political side of Islam. We need to continue to expose the plans of the kuffar against the Ummah so she’ll be able to stand up to those who are trying to take her further away from Islam.
The fault really is within us the Islamic Ummah and others are taking advantage of this situation.

The Ummah must realise that secularism, nationalism, gradualism, democracy, freedom, political pluralism, human rights they all emanate from a kufr aqeedah and has nothing to do with Islam. Islam has its own thoughts and rules which emanate solely from the Islamic Aqeedah.
The Arab Spring has been turned in to another American project in the Muslim world to remove the potential rise of Islam.

Interesting article below:

http://downsum.heliohost.org/index.php?page=page&action=viewcommentsy&story=1886031669516000&email=&session=&special=null&category=
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