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Quote abjad Replybullet Topic: Why obey God?
    Posted: 09 July 2012 at 2:49pm
asalaam aleykum

i need your kindly supportive answers so i might relay.

thank you
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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2012 at 6:57am
And obey Allah and the (Prophetic) Messenger that you may obtain mercy. (3:132)

Those are the limits set by Allah, and whoso obeys Allah and His (Prophetic) Messenger, He (Allah) will make him enter Gardens (in Paradise) underneath which rivers flow, to abide therein. And that is the great success. (4:13)

O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the (Prophetic) Messenger and those in authority from amongst you, then if you have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the (Prophetic) Messenger if you believe in Allah and the Last Day (of Jedgement). That is better and very good in the end. (4:59)

And whoso obeys Allah and the (Prophetic) Messenger, they will be with those to whom Allah has shown favour, of the Prophets and the Truthful and the Martyrs and the Righteous, and the best of Companions are they! (4:69)

Whoever obeys the (Prophetic) Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah; and whoever turns away, so We have not sent you as a keeper over them. (4:80)

And the believing (Muslim) men and the believing (Muslim) women are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong, and they establish regular Prayer and they give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and they obey Allah and His (Prophetic) Messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Undoubtedly, Allah is Mighty, Wise. (9:71)

And he who obeys Allah and His (Prophetic) Messenger, and has reverential awe of Allah, and keeps his duty (to Him): then these it is that are the successful. (24:52)

Say (O Beloved Prophet): “Obey Allah and obey the (Prophetic) Messenger. But if you turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and you for that placed on you, and if you obey him, you will be rightly guided. And the responsibility of the (Prophetic) Messenger is only to convey (the Message) clearly. (24:54)

And establish regular Prayer and give the obligatory charity (Zakat) and obey the (Prophetic) Messenger, so that mercy may be shown to you (from Allah). (24:56)
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Quote abjad Replybullet Posted: 13 July 2012 at 9:54am

’Islam’  means total surrender to Allah and the messenger, and that no one can become truly Muslim unless he gives up obedience to anyone or anything apart from God.

But why is so much stress laid on obedience to God and His Messenger? You may ask: Does God need our obedience so badly that He has to demand it so insistently from us? Is He, too, like the rulers of the world so power-hungry that He has to insist His rule cannot be sustained without these subjugating us?

            Let us try to examine these questions.

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Quote nothing Replybullet Posted: 14 July 2012 at 6:19pm
Death does not exist it's just mere changing from one form to another. We are part of whatever that is exist. If this existance is forever than we are too forever. In this foreverness we don't want to place ourselves as a doormats, or do we? in a place shaped like pyramid there are vast area at the base of the pyramid to fit lots of people. But that people are the "doormat" kind of people. On the opposite end, the top most end of the pyramid it can fit only one person, no more.

And whichever place we land in the end it will be very long time to endure or to enjoy. But it will end eventually, and restart again.

Allah is not a person, he is a system that we live in, our beginning as well as our end. We not supposed to oppose it, it is a system that is set that way and we are in it. The duty of messengers only to inform us of what the system is "And the responsibility of the (Prophetic) Messenger is only to convey (the Message) clearly. (24:54)" .

Allah is the Inward and the Outward, and He is everywhere wherever we go. And whatever we do for Allah - it is actually just for our own selves.

But of course unless if someone can point it out otherwise.
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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 19 July 2012 at 10:07pm
Originally posted by abjad

Does God need our obedience so badly that He has to demand it so insistently from us? Is He, too, like the rulers of the world so power-hungry that He has to insist His rule cannot be sustained without these subjugating us?

Recetly did a tafsir course online. As we came to a verse which says " Allah is the creator of heavens and earth ..."
 
She showed us some pictures of astronomical sizes of various planets / stars in the universe.
 
We realize this earth is pretty small in comparison to other planets in our solar system, as well as our sun.
Then she compared the size of our sun with other suns in the galaxy - in comparison the size of our earth looked almost insignificant.
Then she showed stars of other galaxies much bigger than the stars of our own galaxy - it was some experience to know the comparitive sizes, especially in context of the verses which say ALLAH is THE CREATOR of Heavans and Earth.
 
And ... all in the heavens and earth do not even have the potential to disobey Him except us humans who are given a choice.
 
Were we to imagine our own sizes in comparison to the biggest stars that exist in this universe - are we significant? If not, then its prepostorous to even think that our worship or obedience is of any merit to Allah.
He has said in the Quran that nothing decreases an iota from His dominion  if we obey or disobey.
So, point to ponder, whose is the real benefit in obeying Him?
 
Also let us be reminded of the hadith of the prophet (sallallahu alaihe wassallam) that no one will enter paradise except through the mercy of Allah. And when he was asked ' not even you O messenger of Allah' he said, not even I unless He covers me entirely in His mercy.
 
Point to ponder from this is - our deeds (worship and obedience) alone do not gain us a passport to paradise.
 
Why should we obey Him in the first place? We obey Him because He is our creator, creator of the heavens and earth and all that is in between them.
We obey Him because He controls everything, and we control nothing not even our own breaths that sustain our life. Not even the oxygen in this air that we need to sustain our live, not even the air pressure that is so necessary for us to take in the right amount of oxygen to sustain life!
 
If we obey Him by choice, the benefit is ours - if we disobey by choice, He can replace us with other people as He wills.
 
 
 


Edited by Nausheen - 19 July 2012 at 10:11pm
Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Quote rememberallah Replybullet Posted: 29 July 2012 at 12:02pm
agreeing with nausheen......i would add, it is something like saying why should we obey our boss in office??
Allah is the ultimate permanent boss....the rest are temporary mirages for this world.

and if you want to know why Allah asks us to obey,,,,,then it is simply because he wants us humans to live in harmony with each other and be intelligent beings as a whole
The whole world is like Hazrat Umar but no one is like his sister and brother in law.
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Quote victorwilson Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2012 at 7:03am
How do you obey God?
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Quote rememberallah Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2012 at 3:30am
There are ways to obey God, for the first level of believers they should do what Allah has asked and never deviate from that......however for the higher level of belief Allah can be obeyed the way the birf of solomon obeyed Solomon, the way Al-khidr Obeyed Allah, the way Abraham Obeyed Allah by asking Allah to forgive people of Lot, the way Prophet Muhammad will ask for the forgivness of those in Jahannam......To know the higher path of the kingdom of Allah read the article "God's cause"
One Obeys God in whatever he does if he follows the highest path - Increasing the kingdom of Allah ie increasing the score of paradise......and if it be die and not raise ones hand against his own murderer like Abel did.
May Allah guide us all
The whole world is like Hazrat Umar but no one is like his sister and brother in law.
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