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Posted: 30 June 2012 at 4:25pm

simple question (I posted this question under Muhammad, but it was not permitted. I am hoping maybe this forum will be allowed.)

Please someone tell me why they believe in Muhammad as a prophet of God.
Why does his teaching supercede, in a Muslim's mind, all the teaching of thousands of years of witnesses and history? What proof is there of Muhammad and his claims?

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Posted: 07 July 2012 at 10:57pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

simple question (I posted this question under Muhammad, but it was not permitted. I am hoping maybe this forum will be allowed.)Please someone tell me why they believe in Muhammad as a prophet of God.Why does his teaching supercede, in a Muslim's mind, all the teaching of thousands of years of witnesses and history? What proof is there of Muhammad and his claims?

Hi Caringheart,
This topic is too big to discuss in a few words.I am posting a book for you to read,it is not a big one.http://ia600306.us.archive.org/13/items/Shk_Ahmed_Deedats_Books/Muhummed_pbuh_The_Natural_Successor_To_Christ.pdf

Feel free to discuss.

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Posted: 08 July 2012 at 5:51am

Assalamu alaika Caringheart.

Describing Muhammad as a prophet means he tells you what the G-d of Abraham tells him about what happened before him.
His teaching does not supercede technically what was revealed to him. Rather it was a similar simplified teaching. His teaching differed from previous one that is the Torah in only going for the pilgrimage. You can get more information from: http/sbpra.com/allamadrsanisalihmustapha.
Friendship.

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Posted: 08 July 2012 at 5:29pm

Originally posted by Friendship

Assalamu alaika Caringheart.

Describing Muhammad as a prophet means he tells you what the G-d of Abraham tells him about what happened before him.
His teaching does not supercede technically what was revealed to him. Rather it was a similar simplified teaching. His teaching differed from previous one that is the Torah in only going for the pilgrimage. You can get more information from: http/sbpra.com/allamadrsanisalihmustapha.
Friendship.

Thank you friendship, for trying to answer, but I want to know... for you personally... what has you convinced of Muhammad as prophet of God?
Thanks again.
Caringheart Heart

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Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:03pm

Dear Caringheaart.

It is a long story. You see I am a scientist. I view everything on scientific way and basis. For example a chain link. It is a link due to its continuity. It has number o chains. If one link is absent it is defective. If I believe in Adam why should I not believe in Muhammad, if he told me about Adam and that he is also a prophet as Adam. Try to read that book.
Friendship

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Posted: 09 July 2012 at 5:24pm

Caringheart,
from a believer's perspective, for me its simple. Prophet Mohammed's (pbuh) message, it's simplicity and universality is the main reason to know that he was a true prophet of God. In the time when humanity was in need of direction, his call to bring us back to the worship and service of One God our Creator has the most profound affect on hearts of believers like myself. Also what has come to be known as revelations or word of God, the Quran, it turns out to be of such a great value while he was an ordinary man who did not know to read and write. It is a Miracle and only God can make happen such miracles. Thus no doubt, God is behind choosing him as a prophet giving him the Quran, a guide for mankind like many prophets and their books before to lead man into the right way and out of error.
I know its a very vast topic like others have said, but this is my short answer to your question, I hope it helps.
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 09 July 2012 at 5:30pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

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Posted: 09 July 2012 at 8:50pm

Originally posted by Friendship

Dear Caringheaart.
It is a long story. You see I am a scientist. I view everything on scientific way and basis. For example a chain link. It is a link due to its continuity. It has number o chains. If one link is absent it is defective. If I believe in Adam why should I not believe in Muhammad, if he told me about Adam and that he is also a prophet as Adam. Try to read that book.
Friendship

Well then that would just mean that if I told you about David, and said I am like David, then it must be so...
Or if I told you about Mary, and said I am like Mary... this does not make it so.
This is not scientific,
this is not logical.

I will do my best to read what you suggest.
Thanks.
I still would prefer a personal testimony as to your own heart. Heart

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Posted: 09 July 2012 at 9:00pm

Originally posted by honeto

Caringheart,
from a believer's perspective, for me its simple. Prophet Mohammed's (pbuh) message, it's simplicity and universality is the main reason to know that he was a true prophet of God. In the time when humanity was in need of direction, his call to bring us back to the worship and service of One God our Creator has the most profound affect on hearts of believers like myself. Also what has come to be known as revelations or word of God, the Quran, it turns out to be of such a great value while he was an ordinary man who did not know to read and write. It is a Miracle and only God can make happen such miracles. Thus no doubt, God is behind choosing him as a prophet giving him the Quran, a guide for mankind like many prophets and their books before to lead man into the right way and out of error.
I know its a very vast topic like others have said, but this is my short answer to your question, I hope it helps.
Hasan

I do appreciate your answer Hasan.
Have you considered that as a child, as he traveled with his uncle, that Muhammad heard the Psalms as they were chanted and that he came to know the Word of God this way? That the beauty of the Qur'an comes from the beauty of the Psalms, God's Word?
It was common practice for the Psalms to be chanted throughout the day at that time, as the Monks went about their business of tending the farms. (This is where the practice of 'prayer beads' in the Christian faith came from. It is how they counted off the Psalms as they chanted them)
Have you considered that is where the idea of 'call to prayer' originated? From hearing the beauty of the Psalms being sung out for all to hear.
I have considered these things. Heart

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Topic: a question I have regarding Muhammad Posted: 30 June 2012 at 4:25pm
	simple question (I posted this question under Muhammad, but it was not permitted. I am hoping maybe this forum will be allowed.) Please someone tell me why they believe in Muhammad as a prophet of God. Why does his teaching supercede, in a Muslim's mind, all the teaching of thousands of years of witnesses and history? What proof is there of Muhammad and his claims?
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iec786 Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282	Posted: 07 July 2012 at 10:57pm
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* simple question (I posted this question under Muhammad, but it was not permitted. I am hoping maybe this forum will be allowed.)Please someone tell me why they believe in Muhammad as a prophet of God.Why does his teaching supercede, in a Muslim's mind, all the teaching of thousands of years of witnesses and history? What proof is there of Muhammad and his claims? Hi Caringheart, This topic is too big to discuss in a few words.I am posting a book for you to read,it is not a big one.http://ia600306.us.archive.org/13/items/Shk_Ahmed_Deedats_Books/Muhummed_pbuh_The_Natural_Successor_To_Christ.pdf Feel free to discuss.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 874	Posted: 08 July 2012 at 5:51am
	Assalamu alaika Caringheart. Describing Muhammad as a prophet means he tells you what the G-d of Abraham tells him about what happened before him. His teaching does not supercede technically what was revealed to him. Rather it was a similar simplified teaching. His teaching differed from previous one that is the Torah in only going for the pilgrimage. You can get more information from: http/sbpra.com/allamadrsanisalihmustapha. Friendship.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 08 July 2012 at 5:29pm
	*Originally posted by Friendship* Assalamu alaika Caringheart. Describing Muhammad as a prophet means he tells you what the G-d of Abraham tells him about what happened before him. His teaching does not supercede technically what was revealed to him. Rather it was a similar simplified teaching. His teaching differed from previous one that is the Torah in only going for the pilgrimage. You can get more information from: http/sbpra.com/allamadrsanisalihmustapha. Friendship. Thank you friendship, for trying to answer, but I want to know... for you personally... what has you convinced of Muhammad as prophet of God? Thanks again. Caringheart
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 874	Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:03pm
	Dear Caringheaart. It is a long story. You see I am a scientist. I view everything on scientific way and basis. For example a chain link. It is a link due to its continuity. It has number o chains. If one link is absent it is defective. If I believe in Adam why should I not believe in Muhammad, if he told me about Adam and that he is also a prophet as Adam. Try to read that book. Friendship
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honeto Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2340	Posted: 09 July 2012 at 5:24pm
	Caringheart, from a believer's perspective, for me its simple. Prophet Mohammed's (pbuh) message, it's simplicity and universality is the main reason to know that he was a true prophet of God. In the time when humanity was in need of direction, his call to bring us back to the worship and service of One God our Creator has the most profound affect on hearts of believers like myself. Also what has come to be known as revelations or word of God, the Quran, it turns out to be of such a great value while he was an ordinary man who did not know to read and write. It is a Miracle and only God can make happen such miracles. Thus no doubt, God is behind choosing him as a prophet giving him the Quran, a guide for mankind like many prophets and their books before to lead man into the right way and out of error. I know its a very vast topic like others have said, but this is my short answer to your question, I hope it helps. Hasan Edited by honeto - 09 July 2012 at 5:30pm
	39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 09 July 2012 at 8:50pm
	*Originally posted by Friendship* Dear Caringheaart. It is a long story. You see I am a scientist. I view everything on scientific way and basis. For example a chain link. It is a link due to its continuity. It has number o chains. If one link is absent it is defective. If I believe in Adam why should I not believe in Muhammad, if he told me about Adam and that he is also a prophet as Adam. Try to read that book. Friendship Well then that would just mean that if I told you about David, and said I am like David, then it must be so... Or if I told you about Mary, and said I am like Mary... this does not make it so. This is not scientific, this is not logical. I will do my best to read what you suggest. Thanks. I still would prefer a personal testimony as to your own heart.
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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1311	Posted: 09 July 2012 at 9:00pm
	*Originally posted by honeto* Caringheart, from a believer's perspective, for me its simple. Prophet Mohammed's (pbuh) message, it's simplicity and universality is the main reason to know that he was a true prophet of God. In the time when humanity was in need of direction, his call to bring us back to the worship and service of One God our Creator has the most profound affect on hearts of believers like myself. Also what has come to be known as revelations or word of God, the Quran, it turns out to be of such a great value while he was an ordinary man who did not know to read and write. It is a Miracle and only God can make happen such miracles. Thus no doubt, God is behind choosing him as a prophet giving him the Quran, a guide for mankind like many prophets and their books before to lead man into the right way and out of error. I know its a very vast topic like others have said, but this is my short answer to your question, I hope it helps. Hasan I do appreciate your answer Hasan. Have you considered that as a child, as he traveled with his uncle, that Muhammad heard the Psalms as they were chanted and that he came to know the Word of God this way? That the beauty of the Qur'an comes from the beauty of the Psalms, God's Word? It was common practice for the Psalms to be chanted throughout the day at that time, as the Monks went about their business of tending the farms. (This is where the practice of 'prayer beads' in the Christian faith came from. It is how they counted off the Psalms as they chanted them) Have you considered that is where the idea of 'call to prayer' originated? From hearing the beauty of the Psalms being sung out for all to hear. I have considered these things.
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