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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2005 at 7:13pm

I will say this, when you start treating people equal and with respect, the way you want to be treated then you will receive that back to you.

And that is ALL what we want is it not ?

 

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Quote ZEA  J Replybullet Posted: 07 October 2005 at 10:30pm

Hi Angel,

even chritians believe that they are better than the non-chritians....

"You will never attain piety and righteousness,(and eventually paradise)until you
spend of that which you love."(Al-Imran:92)
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Quote Dayem Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 12:08am

MANKIND:You are of course right.....all of us do things to plz ourself only.......and that is defined as 'Selfishness'......u know, to plz ourself, we dont even care for others.But I think u meant people who do SOCIAL works,voluantry, benefitting others and getting satisfaction in return..........well u hv got me there.But who knows, these people also believe in God?Or those who dont believe, maybe God rewards them in this life only?

ANGEL:Well yes......but...if we r getting the respect and same treatment in this life only......what is the advantage?

ZEA J:Yes u r rite, but that is because many christian also, alhamdilillah, believe in God and the last day......thereby do good....

Happy Ramazan everyone,

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Quote mankind Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 1:29pm
Well..i still cant say u r fully wrong or fully ryt..but i know it makes A HUGGEEE difference when you believe in the last day n God cuz ur scared..so i guess ur kinda ryt..n umm..i just wanted to say this n i KNOW non of u will agree to this but i just want to say..if theres a human n he doesnt believe in anything n he lives normal provides food for his family help others n all that simple goods..i dont see nooo reason why he should go to hell just becuz he doesnt believe in God.n there r ppl like that...am just saying that dont sound ryt...how a gud yo..hope ramadan is going good for all of us..
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Quote Brother123 Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 8:52pm


Allah owns heaven and hell not mankind. Thus Allah chooses who will go to hell and heaven.

The condition for entery into heaven is the belief in Islam. It is Allah's  law that He will not allow kaffirs to enter heaven unless they believe in Islam and reject kufr. As no religion will be accepted after the coming of Islam.

 It is a crime Against God to not believe in his religion and associate partners with him like a son etc. Crime against God is far worse than crime against humans.

If Allah places soem one in hellfire. No one can get himher out. Even if the whole mankind gathered againsy Allah they will not be able to do anything.

If you want heaven by being good to mankind and not believe in Islam then ask the heaven that mankind can give you. You can not give what does not belong to you.

 

Actually nothing belongs to you. It all belongs to Allah . Even you.

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Quote mankind Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 8:58pm
Very ryt my friend..but who r u to say ppl who dont believe in allah will go to hell..allah is very merciful..plz try to be open-minded yo..u just kant say sum1 will go to hell jus cuz they dont believe in allah..they r wrong..but they r sum of them who still do better things than believers..allah will forgive them..so think about it man...n i know only God decides that..n i know i belong to him..but think about wat u said...
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Quote Dayem Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 9:53pm

As-salamualaikum warah mutullah wa bar ka tuhu,

Originally posted by Brother123

The condition for entery into heaven is the belief in Islam. It is Allah's  law that He will not allow kaffirs to enter heaven unless they believe in Islam and reject kufr. As no religion will be accepted after the coming of Islam.

Brother123!I advise you to use english only.......you see, when you say that the condition for entry in paradise is belief in 'Islam'........Islam,when transalated in english means peace(root word=salam)....while in general term is a name of religion.Those who follow 'the religion Islam'....are muslim.....have submitted there wills and desire 100% against those of Allah(swt).....will I think go to Heaven.But Quran itself talks about some people of the book who are good(ie, do good works), believe in God and the last day........will also go to heaven.

Now Kafir means 'some one who knows the truth and denies it'.That is, those person who refuses, even while secretly knowing, the exisence of God or the last day(I am not sure if that is the exact defination)......well of course they will go to Hell...........

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..if theres a human n he doesnt believe in anything n he lives normal provides food for his family help others n all that simple goods...

Well, personally I think your question 'could have been better'.There are lots of information which you have not revealed about this imaginary person........he dosn't believe In God, WHY?Allah(swt) has send us in this world for a test........so this person does not acknowledges the test..me thinks he gonna fail....he enjoys the sunshine in winter, rain in summer.........food he eats.etc,etc,.....and he dosnt even reflect who is sending him these things?Or does he have an attitude, 'Who cares?'.....Pity, Pity.....I think that all his good work will be returned in this world only.(Allah swt knows best).

I said ' your question could have been better'......You know.....suppose a child is born at a family which practises shirk......so he grows up.........nice in manner...helping othere...anyway he grow but practises shirk......now he suddenly dies.....where will he go?Well, Allah(swt knows best.

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Quote mankind Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 10:03pm
Thats a good thought...my question could have been better..to ppl who need specificccc statements...but i wanna say first that wat daeym said is ryt..its those who reject it..who r likley to go to hell..but wats worse is ppl who not only reject it but hate it n speak against it n try to abuse it those type of ppl i personally think they will not be accpted by allah but still allah knows..but for ppl who simply want to live thier life..n dont bother tohers with thier thought..i belive they have the right to do that!
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