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Posted: 26 May 2012 at 6:19pm

I need to gather some proof to show my friends that islam is the true religion

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Posted: 11 July 2012 at 5:01am

I am just wandering what is the criteria that can be considered proof.
I think the only proof of Islam that can be presented is the Qur'an itself. Prophet Muhammad existence depend on it.

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Posted: 08 August 2012 at 10:02am

Salam,

Does your friend believe in the existence of a Creator of the universe, if not this is a good start.

I recommend Abdur-Raheem Green, he has done some simple but excellent talks on this topic.

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Posted: 22 August 2012 at 2:03am

Try Hamza Yusuf the American scholar, as it appears you being from USA.. On You tube, scientists have studied the Quran looking for fault, only to have proclaimed the Quran to be the truth and half reverted to Islam.. the French Prof Dr Maurice Bucaille who studied Quran and reverted to Islam after discovering Pharoah body.. and the list continues..

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Posted: 21 September 2012 at 6:44am

I was raised Muslim, but there's a thought that I can't get out of my head. No matter how hard I try, I can't come to resolution. What if we're wrong? I've never seen anything to prove without a doubt that Islam is any truer than any other religion. And then I think about humanity.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 at 3:10am

Salam.. I am happy to show you countless proofs, but if your heart is not true then who gains insight. Start with the word "verily', then email me and I shall put forth as much proof as you require. I will gladly highlight the corruption of the Hebrew bible , the bible of both 'Yahweh' and 'Elohim'. The corruption of the new Testament to reveal many and varied influences that helped form the texts. The exclusion of Saint Barnabas, the influences of Paul's letters on Reformation, and the manipulation of revelation by Christians fundamentalists. I leave you with this thought .. All other significant religions were named after the individual they poised to worship, (Judah..Judism, Christ..Christian) but Islam was named by Allah (swt) in the Quran. Then we can look at the Quran.. Then the holy city of Mecca, our Prophet (saw) and proofs will overwhelm you...

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Posted: 23 September 2012 at 10:03am

Originally posted by crishjohanna

I was raised Muslim, but there's a thought that I can't get out of my head. No matter how hard I try, I can't come to resolution. What if we're wrong? I've never seen anything to prove without a doubt that Islam is any truer than any other religion. And then I think about humanity.

The first recorded doubt like yours was Ali bin Abi Talib, the 4th Caliph. In his writing he stated that in performing Islam he did it as gamble with two possible outcomes, either God's promised is true or God's promise is false. But he did not want to fall in the wrong side, so he did it - as gamble. His reasoning was, if after what he spent for Islam with the loss of time, energy and property was for nothing because God's promise is false than that's it, he lost the gamble. And the people who did not do like him won the gamble by utilizing the time, energy and property for the extra enjoyment on top of their enjoyment.

BUT, if the promised of God is true therefore the paradise and hell are also true and they are eternal. From this reasoning he came to the conclusion that doing the religious duties was the better bet.

Of course his name for this reasoning are not be found in any today's literature because this is the muslim logic. But you can find the same exact reasoning by the name Pascal wager, by Frenchman Blaise Pascal.

Happy learning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

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Posted: 24 September 2012 at 12:39pm

What literature is this found in..?? Is this your Islam.. ?? A question, how could Ali (as) who was raised in the household of the prophet(saw) ever explained his religion to a metaphor of sinful gambling. I am interested in your source please..!!!!

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ILoveAll Male Islam Starter Joined: 29 April 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Topic: Proofs of Islam Posted: 26 May 2012 at 6:19pm
	I need to gather some proof to show my friends that islam is the true religion
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 379	Posted: 11 July 2012 at 5:01am
	I am just wandering what is the criteria that can be considered proof. I think the only proof of Islam that can be presented is the Qur'an itself. Prophet Muhammad existence depend on it.
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sultanmuradII Male Islam Starter. Joined: 29 July 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Posted: 08 August 2012 at 10:02am
	Salam, Does your friend believe in the existence of a Creator of the universe, if not this is a good start. I recommend Abdur-Raheem Green, he has done some simple but excellent talks on this topic.
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islamforever69 Female Islam Starter. Joined: 20 August 2012 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 22 August 2012 at 2:03am
	Try Hamza Yusuf the American scholar, as it appears you being from USA.. On You tube, scientists have studied the Quran looking for fault, only to have proclaimed the Quran to be the truth and half reverted to Islam.. the French Prof Dr Maurice Bucaille who studied Quran and reverted to Islam after discovering Pharoah body.. and the list continues..
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crishjohanna Starter. Joined: 21 September 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Posted: 21 September 2012 at 6:44am
	I was raised Muslim, but there's a thought that I can't get out of my head. No matter how hard I try, I can't come to resolution. What if we're wrong? I've never seen anything to prove without a doubt that Islam is any truer than any other religion. And then I think about humanity.
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islamforever69 Female Islam Starter. Joined: 20 August 2012 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 22 September 2012 at 3:10am
	Salam.. I am happy to show you countless proofs, but if your heart is not true then who gains insight. Start with the word "verily', then email me and I shall put forth as much proof as you require. I will gladly highlight the corruption of the Hebrew bible , the bible of both 'Yahweh' and 'Elohim'. The corruption of the new Testament to reveal many and varied influences that helped form the texts. The exclusion of Saint Barnabas, the influences of Paul's letters on Reformation, and the manipulation of revelation by Christians fundamentalists. I leave you with this thought .. All other significant religions were named after the individual they poised to worship, (Judah..Judism, Christ..Christian) but Islam was named by Allah (swt) in the Quran. Then we can look at the Quran.. Then the holy city of Mecca, our Prophet (saw) and proofs will overwhelm you...
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nothing Senior Member Joined: 09 November 2008 Location: Andorra Online Status: Offline Posts: 379	Posted: 23 September 2012 at 10:03am
	*Originally posted by crishjohanna* I was raised Muslim, but there's a thought that I can't get out of my head. No matter how hard I try, I can't come to resolution. What if we're wrong? I've never seen anything to prove without a doubt that Islam is any truer than any other religion. And then I think about humanity. The first recorded doubt like yours was Ali bin Abi Talib, the 4th Caliph. In his writing he stated that in performing Islam he did it as gamble with two possible outcomes, either God's promised is true or God's promise is false. But he did not want to fall in the wrong side, so he did it - as gamble. His reasoning was, if after what he spent for Islam with the loss of time, energy and property was for nothing because God's promise is false than that's it, he lost the gamble. And the people who did not do like him won the gamble by utilizing the time, energy and property for the extra enjoyment on top of their enjoyment. BUT, if the promised of God is true therefore the paradise and hell are also true and they are eternal. From this reasoning he came to the conclusion that doing the religious duties was the better bet. Of course his name for this reasoning are not be found in any today's literature because this is the muslim logic. But you can find the same exact reasoning by the name Pascal wager, by Frenchman Blaise Pascal. Happy learning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
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islamforever69 Female Islam Starter. Joined: 20 August 2012 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 24 September 2012 at 12:39pm
	What literature is this found in..?? Is this your Islam.. ?? A question, how could Ali (as) who was raised in the household of the prophet(saw) ever explained his religion to a metaphor of sinful gambling. I am interested in your source please..!!!!
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