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The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.

“Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:3]

The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.
Pork prohibited in the Bible The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
“And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you”.  “Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8 ]

Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
“And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.” [Deuteronomy 14:8]

A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.

The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body. Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis.

A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.
Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.

The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs. Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbor’s excreta.

These are sufficient reasons to proof why Pork is forbidden in Islam as well as other religions. 

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samirfaithful Male Islam Groupie Joined: 25 August 2010 Location: Algeria Online Status: Offline Posts: 61	Topic: Pork is forbidden in Islam and Christianity. Posted: 24 April 2012 at 6:18am
	The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115. “Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah.” [Al-Qur’an 5:3] The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden. Pork prohibited in the Bible The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you”. “Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8 ] Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy “And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.” [Deuteronomy 14:8] A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5. The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body. Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature. Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension. The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs. Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbor’s excreta. These are sufficient reasons to proof why Pork is forbidden in Islam as well as other religions.
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Simian Starter Joined: 26 April 2012 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1	Posted: 26 April 2012 at 1:58pm
	Are there places in the Christian Bible that contradict these lines from Deuteronomy? Because it looks to my non-Christian eye like are forbidden to eat meat. But it also looks from Al-Qur’an 5:3 like Muslims are forbidden from eating all meat unless it is alive but has no blood. Is this not so?
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iec786 Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282	Posted: 26 April 2012 at 9:41pm
	*Originally posted by Simian* Are there places in the Christian Bible that contradict these lines from Deuteronomy? Because it looks to my non-Christian eye like are forbidden to eat meat.But it also looks from <font face="Gisha" size="3">Al-Qur’an 5:3 like Muslims are forbidden from eating all meat unless it is alive but has no blood. Is this not so? I think you have misunderstood the verse,here is the verse read it and try and understand it. Sahih International 5:3 Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.Surat Al-Mā'idah
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bunter Male Senior Member Joined: 28 March 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 123	Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:20pm
	Biblically there are many different kinds of law: moral, civil, ritual, hygiene and so on. Many of the hygiene laws are not applicable anymore though they all contain a principle that are useful. For example, there is a law about seeing a priest if you have a skin disease but it's obvious that has no value now but e principle of getting things checked is still valid. So not eating port is not a moral question, since not eating pork will not make you a better person or help you not to lie or cheat. It was instituted becuase at that time cooking port properly was impossible, but that is not true today. There is a principle here though about being careful what you eat etc. The point about all this is that growing a beard or being circumcised will not stop you sinning or make you a better person or improve society, but loving your neighbour as yourself will have a dramatic and good effect
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iec786 Senior Member Joined: 06 February 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 282	Posted: 03 May 2012 at 10:34pm
	*Originally posted by bunter* Biblically there are many different kinds of law: moral, civil, ritual, hygiene and so on. Many of the hygiene laws are not applicable anymore though they all contain a principle that are useful. For example, there is a law about seeing a priest if you have a skin disease but it's obvious that has no value now but e principle of getting things checked is still valid. So not eating port is not a moral question, since not eating pork will not make you a better person or help you not to lie or cheat. It was instituted becuase at that time cooking port properly was impossible, but that is not true today. There is a principle here though about being careful what you eat etc. The point about all this is that growing a beard or being circumcised will not stop you sinning or make you a better person or improve society, but loving your neighbour as yourself will have a dramatic and good effect Should we then discard the Old Testament,and embrace the New Testament??? Did you know that Jesus never seen or heard of this New Testament that you are advocating. being circumcised Did you know that this was a covenant of God ? God told Moses kill all those that are uncircumcised.
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bunter Male Senior Member Joined: 28 March 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 123	Posted: 04 May 2012 at 6:44am
	Should we then discard the Old Testament,and embrace the New Testament??? Did you know that Jesus never seen or heard of this New Testament that you are advocating.mbeing circumcised Did you know that this was a covenant of God ? God told Moses kill all those that are uncircumcised. We do not need to discard it but we must interpret what is written there, indeed every written word must be interpreted and we must be very cautious over anyone who takes everything literally. If you are asking did Jesus know of the physical New Testament during the 30 or so years of his life on earth then the answer is no - one can hardly write down his actions and teaching until they occur. Circumcision was a sign of the covernant but Abraham, considered the father of the faithful was not circumcised when he received God's promise. What Christians believe is in circumcision of the heart or to put it another way, changed being with a new outlook on life devoted to God's service. Physical circumcision itself does not make a person either pious or good, a physically circumcised person is just as likely to be lier and a cheat as anyone else. Can you quote the verse where Moses commanded that all uncircumcised people (or just men) were to be killed? Edited by bunter - 04 May 2012 at 6:45am
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schmikbob Male Agnostic Senior Member Joined: 27 June 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 422	Posted: 04 May 2012 at 1:38pm
	Actually, I don't see anywhere in bunter's post where he says anyone should "embrace the New Testament". Regardless of whether you think God told Moses to kill everyone that wasn't circumcised, I doubt that you advocate death for everyone that isn't circumcised.
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bunter Male Senior Member Joined: 28 March 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 123	Posted: 05 May 2012 at 2:52am
	*Originally posted by schmikbob* Actually, I don't see anywhere in bunter's post where he says anyone should "embrace the New Testament". Regardless of whether you think God told Moses to kill everyone that wasn't circumcised, I doubt that you advocate death for everyone that isn't circumcised. The question was about the OT but I would advocate the New Testament since Otis clear to me at least that following the teaching of Jesus would result in a better world
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