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Topic: Where is the Muslim voice in America?
Posted: 02 March 2012 at 4:14pm

I am interested to know, Where is the Muslim voice in America?

While the Christian voice regarding the subjects of preserving traditional marriage, and the Obama health initiative that would cause violation of conscience in forcing religious institutions to provide contraception and abortion under its health care plans, has been widely heard,

Why do we hear nothing from the Muslim community which feels just as strongly on these issues?

Why are the Muslims keeping so silent?

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Posted: 02 March 2012 at 8:59pm

Good question.

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Posted: 02 March 2012 at 9:36pm

Salam Hughes and caringheart,

I am a bit confused as well as to the silence.

17:31] You shall not kill your children due to fear of poverty. We provide for them, as well as for you. Killing them is a gross offense.

I am a new to Islam and am confused as well. I am going to voice my opinion but I wonder where my brothers and sisters are....

Just know there are some like myself who are against this murder and will voice it now.

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Posted: 03 March 2012 at 1:22am

Originally posted by Caringheart

I am interested to know, Where is the Muslim voice in America?

While the Christian voice regarding the subjects of preserving traditional marriage, and the Obama health initiative that would cause violation of conscience in forcing religious institutions to provide contraception and abortion under its health care plans, has been widely heard,

Why do we hear nothing from the Muslim community which feels just as strongly on these issues?

Why are the Muslims keeping so silent?

If you want to know groups representing Muslim sentiments in USA, ''CAIR' is one of them. (Council for American Islamic Relations)

As for political issues, I think that right now Muslims in America are facing bigger issues than same-sex marriage, contraceptive provision and abortion. Muslims are trying to fight the negative image and so-called terrorism laws that are targeting Muslim Americans today. Whether or not homosexuals get the right to marry, or abortion is banned - is not an issue of priority for many Muslim Americans at the moment.

Infact even for Chrisian Americans, I'd say that perhaps they should be trying to prevent Wars, bring back troops, worry about health-care, educational reform, and have positive foreign-relations rather than worry about gay-marriage or abortion. Priorities.

"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

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Posted: 03 March 2012 at 11:57am

There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time!

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Posted: 04 March 2012 at 2:31am

Originally posted by Hughes

There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time!

So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?

Ok.

Says a lot.

"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

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Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:19am

Originally posted by Chrysalis

So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?Ok.Says a lot.

the context of your presuppositions are key to your condemnation.

Which war? Who are attacking who?

By my statement above, I'm in no way saying that killing people for no reason is ok, which is exactly what abortion is.

A nation that is defending itself, such as Israel, is quite a different situation from killing innocent unborn children.

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Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:56am

Originally posted by Hughes

Originally posted by Chrysalis

So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?Ok.Says a lot.

the context of your presuppositions are key to your condemnation.

Which war? Who are attacking who?

By my statement above, I'm in no way saying that killing people for no reason is ok, which is exactly what abortion is.

A nation that is defending itself, such as Israel, is quite a different situation from killing innocent unborn children.

For Americans, obviously the wars concerning them would be the ones they are involved in.

I'll repeat, issues should be addressed in order of priorities. Issues that plague and impact the community at large should be addressed before we start discussing issues that are more personal in nature (e.g. abortion, gay-marriages etc).

"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

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Caringheart Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1333	Topic: Where is the Muslim voice in America? Posted: 02 March 2012 at 4:14pm
	I am interested to know, Where is the Muslim voice in America? While the Christian voice regarding the subjects of preserving traditional marriage, and the Obama health initiative that would cause violation of conscience in forcing religious institutions to provide contraception and abortion under its health care plans, has been widely heard, Why do we hear nothing from the Muslim community which feels just as strongly on these issues? Why are the Muslims keeping so silent?
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Hughes Guest Group Joined: 31 January 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 69	Posted: 02 March 2012 at 8:59pm
	Good question.
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Trajik Newbie Joined: 29 October 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 17	Posted: 02 March 2012 at 9:36pm
	Salam Hughes and caringheart, I am a bit confused as well as to the silence. 17:31] You shall not kill your children due to fear of poverty. We provide for them, as well as for you. Killing them is a gross offense. I am a new to Islam and am confused as well. I am going to voice my opinion but I wonder where my brothers and sisters are.... Just know there are some like myself who are against this murder and will voice it now.
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Chrysalis Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031	Posted: 03 March 2012 at 1:22am
	*Originally posted by Caringheart* I am interested to know, Where is the Muslim voice in America? While the Christian voice regarding the subjects of preserving traditional marriage, and the Obama health initiative that would cause violation of conscience in forcing religious institutions to provide contraception and abortion under its health care plans, has been widely heard, Why do we hear nothing from the Muslim community which feels just as strongly on these issues? Why are the Muslims keeping so silent? If you want to know groups representing Muslim sentiments in USA, ''CAIR' is one of them. (Council for American Islamic Relations) As for political issues, I think that right now Muslims in America are facing bigger issues than same-sex marriage, contraceptive provision and abortion. Muslims are trying to fight the negative image and so-called terrorism laws that are targeting Muslim Americans today. Whether or not homosexuals get the right to marry, or abortion is banned - is not an issue of priority for many Muslim Americans at the moment. Infact even for Chrisian Americans, I'd say that perhaps they should be trying to prevent Wars, bring back troops, worry about health-care, educational reform, and have positive foreign-relations rather than worry about gay-marriage or abortion. Priorities.
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Hughes Guest Group Joined: 31 January 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 69	Posted: 03 March 2012 at 11:57am
	There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time!
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Chrysalis Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031	Posted: 04 March 2012 at 2:31am
	*Originally posted by Hughes* There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time! So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War? Ok. Says a lot.
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Hughes Guest Group Joined: 31 January 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 69	Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:19am
	*Originally posted by Chrysalis* *Originally posted by Hughes* There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time! So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?Ok.Says a lot. the context of your presuppositions are key to your condemnation. Which war? Who are attacking who? By my statement above, I'm in no way saying that killing people for no reason is ok, which is exactly what abortion is. A nation that is defending itself, such as Israel, is quite a different situation from killing innocent unborn children.
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Chrysalis Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031	Posted: 04 March 2012 at 9:56am
	*Originally posted by Hughes* *Originally posted by Chrysalis* *Originally posted by Hughes* There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time! So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?Ok.Says a lot. the context of your presuppositions are key to your condemnation. Which war? Who are attacking who? By my statement above, I'm in no way saying that killing people for no reason is ok, which is exactly what abortion is. A nation that is defending itself, such as Israel, is quite a different situation from killing innocent unborn children. For Americans, obviously the wars concerning them would be the ones they are involved in. I'll repeat, issues should be addressed in order of priorities. Issues that plague and impact the community at large should be addressed before we start discussing issues that are more personal in nature (e.g. abortion, gay-marriages etc).
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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