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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 04 March 2012 at 3:11pm
My assumption is that national pro-life organizations such as National Right to Life Committee is made up of all faiths and even atheists.  Is it really necessary to single out any one religion as not doing enough for the cause? 
 
 


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Quote Hughes Replybullet Posted: 04 March 2012 at 7:41pm
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There is no greater issue than the killing of the unborn. And with Obama forcing such evil on believers as can be seen with the Catholics, it is the biggest issue facing American believers at this time!
So killing the unborn is worse than killing living, breathing, already existing millions of human-biengs under the pretext of War?Ok.Says a lot.


the context of your presuppositions are key to your condemnation.

Which war? Who are attacking who?

By my statement above, I'm in no way saying that killing people for no reason is ok, which is exactly what abortion is.

A nation that is defending itself, such as Israel, is quite a different situation from killing innocent unborn children.
For Americans, obviously the wars concerning them would be the ones they are involved in. I'll repeat, issues should be addressed in order of priorities. Issues that plague and impact the community at large should be addressed before we start discussing issues that are more personal in nature (e.g. abortion, gay-marriages etc).


Why can't they be discussed at the same time? Obama's Health Care plan is currently attacking people of faith, yet Muslims are silent as far as I can tell.
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Quote Hughes Replybullet Posted: 04 March 2012 at 7:43pm
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My assumption is that national pro-life organizations such as National Right to Life Committee is made up of all faiths and even atheists. Is it really necessary to single out any one religion as not doing enough for the cause?





Since the Atheists agree (in large part) with the Obama Administration, I wouldn't expect any help from them.
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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 05 March 2012 at 1:39pm
 "I wouldn't expect any help from them."
For some religious pro-lifers, employing non-religious arguments against abortion is sacrilegious. Not only do they see abortion as a sin, but failing to make reference to religion with each pro-life effort is sinful. They are upset and afraid of the idea of atheist or agnostic pro-lifers. They answer questions with scripture regardless of their audience. They pray at pro-life pickets and meetings. In short, they fit the negative, stereotypical way that all pro-lifers are portrayed: as religious zealots trying to "impose morality", mindless puppets directed by pro-life preachers.


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Quote Hughes Replybullet Posted: 06 March 2012 at 8:40am
Your point is?


If your point is that all atheists aren't pro-abortion, I agree with you. I never said they were. Notice I said, "in large part" meaning the vast majority of atheists are not pro life.
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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 06 March 2012 at 12:13pm
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Your point is?
 
 
Just thought I'd challenge your "in large part" assertion....
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Quote Hughes Replybullet Posted: 06 March 2012 at 5:23pm
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Your point is?

Just thought I'd challenge your "in large part" assertion....


And the Obama administration still sees it as apart of it's duty to tell religious schools that they must pay for abortions, which those religious schools believe are evil. And not a word from the Islamic front, accept that some atheists agree with us? Huh? That's your point?

What would happen if the Obama administration stated that all religious schools must serve pork?

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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 06 March 2012 at 6:03pm
Chill out Hughes...I'm in total agreement with you on the issue of abortion, however as mentioned previously, we have several advocacy organizations which are made up of all faiths, therefore I don't see why it's necessary to dress down any single religion as not doing enough.  Unless of course you have some other agenda here.
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