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Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword?
Posted: 17 February 2012 at 10:48pm

Hey everyone. I wasn't sure what forum to put this in so I put it here. Moderators, feel free to move it if you need to.

That said, I have heard that Islam was spread by the sword. Is this true?

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Posted: 18 February 2012 at 10:59am

Hi Holly 3278

ITS one of the widely spread misconception about Islam that it has been spread by sword

Islam comes from the word salaam which means peace. A religion of peace spread through sword ? It's not true

You know sis, that muslims ruled over spain for about 800 years but islam was not spread thru sword. Later when christian crusaders invaded they killed most of the muslims. It/s quiet clear who use swords

Am from India. It is said that muslim rulers ruled for more than 1000 years. Yet we muslims are in minority today. We are about 10-12 percent of the population. If islam was spread thru sword, those rulers would have used powers to get them converted.

By the way, you know that even today there are many christians in Saudi Arabia , the land of last Prophet.

iSLAM does n't approve forcing anyone to get convert, for Allah swt says in the Quran - There is no compulsion in the religion .

Infact we are taught

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur’an 16:125]

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 18 February 2012 at 11:02am

I ALSO HEARD sis that every year about 20,000 people are embracing Islam in USA.There was no sword used

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 19 February 2012 at 2:14am

Originally posted by Holly3278

Hey everyone. I wasn't sure what forum to put this in so I put it here. Moderators, feel free to move it if you need to.

That said, I have heard that Islam was spread by the sword. Is this true?

Hi Holly!

Its just a misconception that Islam was spread by the sword. Like Seekshidayath said, if Islam were really spread by the sword we wouldn't find non-muslims living in lands that were for centuries ruled by muslims. (Like India for example).

There are Coptic-Christians living to this day in Egypt. Spain is a non-muslim majority, India mostly has Hindus. Did you know the Muslim armies reached the border of France too? Yet we find no accounts of forced conversions etc.

The Jewish population in many middle-east countries survived thanks to Muslim rulers who gave them sanctuary during the crusades when even the Jews were targeted.

You can even look this up on the internet itself (See: Ottoman Empire, Ottoman Empire & Jews, Ottoman Empire & Non-Muslims)

"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."

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Posted: 19 February 2012 at 10:07am

Welcome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52OpmjfA1wM
http://aboutjihad.com/jihad/kill_them_wherever_you_find_them.php

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 8:07am

Of course. But so was Christianity in its pre-Enlightenment history.

A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt

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Posted: 21 February 2012 at 2:06am

Originally posted by seekshidayath

Hi Holly 3278

ITS one of the widely spread misconception about Islam that it has been spread by sword

Islam comes from the word salaam which means peace. A religion of peace spread through sword ? It's not true

You know sis, that muslims ruled over spain for about 800 years but islam was not spread thru sword. Later when christian crusaders invaded they killed most of the muslims. It/s quiet clear who use swords

Am from India. It is said that muslim rulers ruled for more than 1000 years. Yet we muslims are in minority today. We are about 10-12 percent of the population. If islam was spread thru sword, those rulers would have used powers to get them converted.

By the way, you know that even today there are many christians in Saudi Arabia , the land of last Prophet.

iSLAM does n't approve forcing anyone to get convert, for Allah swt says in the Quran - There is no compulsion in the religion .

Infact we are taught

"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur’an 16:125]

Was your thing in the 3rd paragraph where you commented about Christian crusaders in Spain an attack on Christianity? If so, I don't appreciate that. I am a Catholic Christian and just because you are on an Islamic forum doesn't give you a right to attack my religion.

That said, as far as Christians in Saudi Arabia, if there truly are any Christians in Saudi Arabia then they are there illegally. Christianity is forbidden in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation too and so this speaks as to just how highly the Muslims of Saudi Arabia value religious freedom which apparently they don't value it very much which is very sad. Cry

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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 2:02pm

Dear Matt Browne.

Assalamu alaika.
Good morning/evening all of you!

How can an ideology that meets one with peace be upon you be spread by the sword?
Rather it is Greek concept of Christianity bearing in mind the 'cross'.
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Holly3278 Female Christian Starter Joined: 29 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Topic: Was Islam spread by the sword? Posted: 17 February 2012 at 10:48pm
	Hey everyone. I wasn't sure what forum to put this in so I put it here. Moderators, feel free to move it if you need to. That said, I have heard that Islam was spread by the sword. Is this true?
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 18 February 2012 at 10:59am
	Hi Holly 3278 ITS one of the widely spread misconception about Islam that it has been spread by sword Islam comes from the word salaam which means peace. A religion of peace spread through sword ? It's not true You know sis, that muslims ruled over spain for about 800 years but islam was not spread thru sword. Later when christian crusaders invaded they killed most of the muslims. It/s quiet clear who use swords Am from India. It is said that muslim rulers ruled for more than 1000 years. Yet we muslims are in minority today. We are about 10-12 percent of the population. If islam was spread thru sword, those rulers would have used powers to get them converted. By the way, you know that even today there are many christians in Saudi Arabia , the land of last Prophet. iSLAM does n't approve forcing anyone to get convert, for Allah swt says in the Quran - There is no compulsion in the religion . Infact we are taught "Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur’an 16:125]
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 18 February 2012 at 11:02am
	I ALSO HEARD sis that every year about 20,000 people are embracing Islam in USA.There was no sword used
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Chrysalis Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2031	Posted: 19 February 2012 at 2:14am
	*Originally posted by Holly3278* Hey everyone. I wasn't sure what forum to put this in so I put it here. Moderators, feel free to move it if you need to. That said, I have heard that Islam was spread by the sword. Is this true? Hi Holly! Its just a misconception that Islam was spread by the sword. Like Seekshidayath said, if Islam were really spread by the sword we wouldn't find non-muslims living in lands that were for centuries ruled by muslims. (Like India for example). There are Coptic-Christians living to this day in Egypt. Spain is a non-muslim majority, India mostly has Hindus. Did you know the Muslim armies reached the border of France too? Yet we find no accounts of forced conversions etc. The Jewish population in many middle-east countries survived thanks to Muslim rulers who gave them sanctuary during the crusades when even the Jews were targeted. You can even look this up on the internet itself (See: Ottoman Empire, Ottoman Empire & Jews, Ottoman Empire & Non-Muslims)
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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docbro Newbie Joined: 10 November 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13	Posted: 19 February 2012 at 10:07am
	Welcome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52OpmjfA1wM http://aboutjihad.com/jihad/kill_them_wherever_you_find_them.php
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Matt Browne Male Christian Senior Member Joined: 19 April 2010 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 755	Posted: 20 February 2012 at 8:07am
	Of course. But so was Christianity in its pre-Enlightenment history.
	A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt
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Holly3278 Female Christian Starter Joined: 29 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Posted: 21 February 2012 at 2:06am
	*Originally posted by seekshidayath* Hi Holly 3278 ITS one of the widely spread misconception about Islam that it has been spread by sword Islam comes from the word salaam which means peace. A religion of peace spread through sword ? It's not true You know sis, that muslims ruled over spain for about 800 years but islam was not spread thru sword. Later when christian crusaders invaded they killed most of the muslims. It/s quiet clear who use swords Am from India. It is said that muslim rulers ruled for more than 1000 years. Yet we muslims are in minority today. We are about 10-12 percent of the population. If islam was spread thru sword, those rulers would have used powers to get them converted. By the way, you know that even today there are many christians in Saudi Arabia , the land of last Prophet. iSLAM does n't approve forcing anyone to get convert, for Allah swt says in the Quran - There is no compulsion in the religion . Infact we are taught "Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur’an 16:125] Was your thing in the 3rd paragraph where you commented about Christian crusaders in Spain an attack on Christianity? If so, I don't appreciate that. I am a Catholic Christian and just because you are on an Islamic forum doesn't give you a right to attack my religion. That said, as far as Christians in Saudi Arabia, if there truly are any Christians in Saudi Arabia then they are there illegally. Christianity is forbidden in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a Muslim nation too and so this speaks as to just how highly the Muslims of Saudi Arabia value religious freedom which apparently they don't value it very much which is very sad.
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Friendship Senior Member Joined: 24 August 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 874	Posted: 22 February 2012 at 2:02pm
	Dear Matt Browne. Assalamu alaika. Good morning/evening all of you! How can an ideology that meets one with peace be upon you be spread by the sword? Rather it is Greek concept of Christianity bearing in mind the 'cross'. friendship
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