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bullet Posted: 23 January 2010 at 1:40am
The number 19 is basis for the mathematical miracle of the Quran.This amazing phenomenon is not a creation of man.It is a divine composition or arrangement which can be verified anytime,anywhere by anyone.The complexity of this mathematical miracle based on the number 19 in the Quran proves that it can never be a man-made one and that the Quran is irrefutably the final message to mankind from the creator himself.Unlike the common belief,the Quran's challenge as in the below verses are not just to create verses like in the Quran but to create a Sura with an amazing mathematical structure .The mathematics in the Quran is the REAL CHALLENGE!This challenge is for all generations including the ones to come InshallahSmile.
[2:23] If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our servant,* then produce one sura like these, and call upon your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful.
[17:88] Say, "If all the humans and all the jinns banded together in order to produce a Quran like this, they can never produce anything like it, no matter how much assistance they lent one another."
[74:30] Over it is nineteen.*
Why 19?
The reasons are listed in the next verse.

[74:31] We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19)

(1) to disturb the disbelievers,

(2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture),

(3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful,

(4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and

(5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

74:35] This is one of the great miracles.*

*74:30-35 This "One of the great miracles" provides the first physical evidence that the Quran is God's message to the world.

[74:36] A warning to the human race.
Is the 19 based miracle a man-made creation falsely associated to the Quran?Well,God Almighty out of his immense mercy answers this in the below verse.

[72:28] This is to ascertain that they have delivered their Lord's messages. He is fully aware of what they have. He has counted the numbers of all things.

7+2+2+8= 19!
[78:29] We counted everything in a record.

[41:42] No falsehood could enter it, in the past or in the future;* a revelation from a Most Wise, Praiseworthy.

*41:42 One of the major functions of the Quran's mathematical miracle is to guard every letter and every aspect of the Quran. Thus, any tampering is immediately recognized .


Edited by haris30432 - 23 January 2010 at 1:55am
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bullet Posted: 23 January 2010 at 10:52pm
This kind of numerical playing around, to me there is no bases at all. You can make everything match as you wish because there rule or restriction that can limit the arrangement.
The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full"
"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"
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