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semar
 
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bullet Posted: 09 April 2005 at 3:18pm

Originally posted by JohnDM

The number 289 is the Serpent at 17 x 17

The Bronze Serpent placed on a Pole by Moses shows the number 17
because 170 pounds x Pi is 534.070 pounds and the hardest bronze
called gun-metal weighs 534 pounds per cubic foot.


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To make it even closer we can do this 534.070 - ((63 (prophet age)+7 (the number of days within a week)/(99 allah's name+1 Uniqueness of god).

Why do you use british unit (pound and foot), not use internanitonal standard (kilogram and meter)? Probably because this related to prophet moses, who used to lived in Egypt and Egypt was colonized by British.

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bullet Posted: 09 April 2005 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by semar

Why do you use british unit (pound and foot), not use internanitonal standard (kilogram and meter)? Probably because this related to prophet moses, who used to lived in Egypt and Egypt was colonized by British.

Assalamu alaikum,

good guess, akhi, but I think the answer is simpler: if he uses the international standard it doesn't work.

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bullet Posted: 10 April 2005 at 10:00am

Temple Mount of Death

"Then Solomon began to build the Temple of the Lord in Jerusalem on
Mount Moriah. It was on the threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite, the
place provided by David, his father." (2 Chronicles 3:1)

"Glory be to Him who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the
Sacred Sanctuary to the farthest Sanctuary, whose precincts We did
bless...." (The Koran, Sura Al-Isra’ 17:1). The Temple Mount (Heb., Har
Habayit; Arabic, Haram esh-Sharif, the Noble Sanctuary),is identified in
both Jewish and Islamic tradition as the area of Mount Moriah where
Abraham offered up his son in sacrifice (Genesis 22:1-18; the Koran, Sura
Al-Saffat 37:102-110). In Muslim tradition, the place is also identified as
the "furthermost sanctuary" (Arabic, masjid al-aksa) from which the
Prophet Mohammed, accompanied by the Angel Gabriel, made the Night
Journey to the Throne of God (The Koran, Sura Al-Isra’ 17:1).

One of Herod's greatest building projects was in Jerusalem. He wanted to
enlarge and embellish the Temple, but the mountain on which Solomon
had built the First Temple and on which Zachariah and Haggai had built
the Second was just too small for his plans. That didn't stop Herod. He
dramatically increased the size of the Temple Mount by constructing huge
encasement walls and filling them in, creating a large trapezoid. He was
then able to proceed with his architectural plans to enlarge the Temple
and its courtyards.

Herod protected the Temple Mount with a large military fortress called
Antonia, honoring Mark Antony. He protected the western entrance of
Jerusalem (and, incidentally, his villa situated there) with a huge tri-
towered fortress called the Citadel. The Citadel loomed over the wealthy
part of town, called the Upper City. And a reference in the The Standard
Jewish Encyclopedia published in 1966 by W. H. Allan, and on page 1,806
there is a description of the Herodian wall surrounding Temple Mount,
with the north wall measures 913 feet, the south wall 1,050 feet, the east
wall 1,515 feet, and the west wall 1,586 feet, a perimeter length of 5,064
feet.

Now John the Baptist baptised Jesus Christ on October 1st AD27 on his
32nd birthday. And 266 days later (19 x 14) on June 24th AD28 John the
Baptist was decapitated and his head placed on a platter and taken to
King Herod’s birthday party. Then 653 days later at 3pm Friday, April 7th
AD30 Jesus Christ died by crucifixion. So there are two very important
time periods that relate to a ‘Double Death’ that of 266 and 653 days.

And 266 x 653 x 10 is equivalent to 7 x 7 x 7 x 5,064.08 feet, about the
length of the Temple Mount Wall.

So a Temple Mount of Double Death.

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bullet Posted: 10 April 2005 at 10:11am
Posts like that make me wish this was CatholicCity so we could all buy
bingo cards.

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bullet Posted: 10 April 2005 at 10:17am
Just to show how measurements speak out.

The Statue of ‘Double Dead’ Freedom

Precisely at noon December 2nd 1863, the final top piece of the Statue of
Freedom was hoisted up from the ground level in front of the Capitol by a
steam apparatus. And twenty minutes later it reached it was moved into
place and secured a flag was unfurled over the head of the statue and a
national salute was fired. The bronze statue surmounting the top of the
287 feet high Dome of the United States Capitol, and facing to the east, is
officially known as the Statue of Freedom which is19 feet 6 inches tall and
weighs 14,985 pounds.

The bronze classical female figure Statue of Freedom was designed by
Thomas Crawford. Her right hand rests upon the hilt of a sheathed sword;
her left hand holds a laurel victory wreath and the shield of the United
States. Her helm is surmounted by an eagle headdress, so she is a
goddess of War. Thus when an American President speaks the word
‘Freedom’ many times standing beneath the Statue of Freedom on a cold
January day, is he really speaking about war?

OK, now 14,985 pounds divided by 2,240 pounds is 6.6897321 tons x 10
and cubed thrice x 10 and square root x 1.5 x Pi and cube root twice and
squared and /Pi is equivalent to 266 days x 653.0026 days.

Now John the Baptist baptised Jesus Christ on October 1st AD27 on his
32nd birthday. And 266 days later (19 x 14) on June 24th AD28 John the
Baptist was decapitated and his head placed on a platter and taken to
Herod, the tetrarch’s birthday party. Then 653 days later at 3pm Friday,
April
7th AD30 Jesus Christ died by crucifixion. So there are two very important
time periods that relate to a ‘Double Death’ that of 266 and 653 days.

And 266 x 653 x 10 is equivalent to 7 x 7 x 7 x 5,064.08 feet, about the
length of the Temple Mount Wall. The Mount of Death?

“Number Form Follows Measurement Function”


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Antipas the tetrarch also called Herod the tetrarch, inherited the Galilean
and Peraean sections of his father's, Herod the Great's, kingdom. He
divorced his first wife, the daughter of Nabataean king Aretas, to marry
his niece Herodias, who was his half-brother Philip's wife. John the Baptist
denounced this marriage as unlawful. Because of John's large following,
Antipas was careful not to over react. However, on the insistance of
Herodias, her husband Antipas had John imprisoned. Then on the
occasion of Antipas' birthday Herodias coaxed her daughter, Salome, to
"dance naked before the king and his court." In appreciation of this
Antipas the tetrarch offered Salome any gift she desire. Her request was,
after being instructed by her mother, was for the head of John the Baptist
(Matthew 14:6; Mark 6:22).
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bullet Posted: 10 April 2005 at 10:37am
A Catholic City

According to Rodolfo Lanciani, the Professor of Archeology at the
University of Rome in AD1888 Rome was founded on April 21st 754BC.
(Some say 753BC)

And legend says that on April 21st 754BC Romulus and his twin brother,
Remus, established Rome on the site where they were suckled by a she-
wolf as orphaned infants. Actually, the Romulus and Remus myth
originated sometime in the fourth century BC.

According to the legend, Romulus and Remus were the sons of Rhea
Silvia, the daughter of King Numitor of Alba Longa. Alba Longa was a
mythical city located in the Alban Hills southeast of what would become
Rome. Before the birth of the twins, Numitor was deposed by his younger
brother Amulius, who forced Rhea to become a vestal virgin so that she
would not give birth to rival claimants to his title. However, Rhea was
impregnated by the war god Mars and gave birth to Romulus and Remus.
Amulius ordered the infants drowned in the Tiber, but they survived and
washed ashore at the foot of the Palatine hill, where they were suckled by
a she-wolf until they were found by the shepherd Faustulus.

Reared by Faustulus and his wife, the twins later became leaders of a
band of young shepherd warriors. After learning their true identity, they
attacked Alba Longa, killed the wicked Amulius, and restored their
grandfather to the throne. The twins then decided to found a town on the
site where they had been saved as infants. They soon became involved in
a petty quarrel, however, and Remus was slain by his brother. Romulus
then became ruler of the settlement, which was named ‘Rome’ after him.

Anyway, counting from 1:30pm April 21st 754BC to the crucifixion of
Christ at 3pm Friday, April 7th AD30 is 782.95945 years or 285,969.72
days which is equivalent to 5.9 x 5.9 x 5.9 x 5.9 x 5.9 x 40.

And 59 is the reference number for the Pharaoh's dual insignia as a Ruler
of Darkness, and an early Knights Templar reference number.

And 59 x 30 is 1770 the 'Black Trinty' the three demon frogs that enter
the minds of millions all over the world to deceive their thinking.

And 177,000 miles per second is the speed of universal gravity.

And the late Pope has 117 cardinals who are allowed to vote for new
Pope. And 117 + the Pope is 59 + 59.

And so on...
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bullet Posted: 10 April 2005 at 12:57pm

As Salamu Alaikum

Sori for the misunderstanding Brother Defenders

Not really into mathematic.

Have funny with ur discussion.

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"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)
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John DM,

Thank you for your answers.

I am stunned, only having vaguely known about this tradition, but have never met a practitioner. I can tell you now that I've reached a conclusion, if not a final conclusion.

Set in the overall historical context of bourgeois rational science, it is probably only a  diversion or form of escapism as harmless as any other number/fact collecting 'hobby'.

However, I am aware that many millions of mostly poor people are influenced by this and similar beliefs. I also understand it has some currency among the Masonic and Christian sects in the ruling classes of the imperialist countries.

I think ridicule is a legitimate response when this manipulation is used to inflame inter religious and inter communal strife, which is what I think your intention is.

As for your slogan "Ignorance is no refuge", it is like the legal stricture that 'ignorance is no defense'. Well, ignorance and poverty is, shamefully for the whole planet, the condition of millions who you and your ilk seek to manipulate.  

 

 

 



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